Whatever became of EMI tape dispute?

[EdinSc]

would be great if this got shared!!


https://guitar.com/news/music-news/beat ... sic-group/

[dk2600]

You can get all the courtpapers here: https://unicourt.com/case/ca-la23-emeri ... ent-332164

Next meeting in a couple of days

07/23/2024
Hearing07/23/2024 at 8:30 AM in Probate Department 44 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012; OSC Re Petition for Final Distribution or Status Report

10/27/2023
Hearing10/27/2023 at 9:30 AM in Probate Department 44 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012; Probate Code 850 Hearing

10/27/2023
Hearing10/27/2023 at 9:30 AM in Probate Department 44 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012; Probate Code 850 Hearing

06/28/2023
DocketOrder (Order Settling Fourth Account Current and Report of Administrator and Petition for Approval of Extraordinary Commissions ); Filed by Petitioner

[EdinSc]

Thanks. It's been simmering a long time. I don't know whom we should root for -- would either party share the tape if they win the rights?

[Tex]

Emerick or his family should have just bootlegged it themselves.

[Fast lucky]

I don´t have any hope for a bootleg telease - it will be either included in an off9cial project or - more likely - buried for ever

[therowdyman]

So stupid.

Apple could have just given them a cash sum to begin with and we'd have a Please Please Me boxset for 2023 - then everyone wins.

It'll just end up being a cash settlement, the family are just seeing how long they can hold out. They know they're not going to make much money selling grey market Euro-vinyl, so if Apple don't win or settle, the family will just sell the tape to a collector, who'll sit on it forever.

[MarkRJones1970]

IIRC he was told to bin it. Instead he saved it. It's ridiculous. If someone told me to throw something away and I saved then it belongs to me, the owner didn't want it.

[harrylime]

IIRC he was told to bin it. Instead he saved it. It's ridiculous. If someone told me to throw something away and I saved then it belongs to me, the owner didn't want it.

It doesn't, it belonged and belongs to the rights holder. Otherwise a waste processor could just resell everything they receive for destruction because by your reasoning it 'belongs to them now'. I think Geoff should be entitled to compensation for saving it and allowing EMI/Universal/Calderstone to profit further from it, but that has nothing to do with ownership being transferred somehow.

[Tex]

Does the tape fall under the rule that if an outtake is not used in 50 years it can't be copyrighted?

[harrylime]

Does the tape fall under the rule that if an outtake is not used in 50 years it can't be copyrighted?

Which rule are you referring to exactly? Afaik the only clause that comes near it is in US law only (not in UK/EU law) where works that were never copyrighted before 50 years after the author's death become in the public domain 20 years later. That thus pertains to all authors who died before 1953...