The Beatles Greatest (Dutch Post 1971 Version) (DESS)

[funtime]

I Feel Fine versions in Dutch and German pressings, for me, is a pending and not completely resolved issue.
The problem is that the German and Dutch sources are not completely reliable: DESS, Helter Skelter's, "Every Little Thing"'s tracks not rarely do not match in finer details as the "type" of Fake Stereo sound and/or the amount of reverb...
DESS is also renowned for his casually replacement of tracks with the corresponding ones but taken from other rips/releases : not exactly a 'solid ground'

Having said that, leaving out the problematic German drops, taking account only of Dutch releases
and considering these Dr.Ebbetts Dutch drops honest and reliable we can summarize as follows:

DESS did two versions of Dutch Greatest
V1 (Pre-71)
I Feel Fine: fake stereo
All my Loving: hi-hat start

V2 (Post-71)
I Feel Fine: True stereo, whispering intro
All my Loving: regular edited start

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All the shared versions are DESS and all belongs to one of the two versions above:

V1 : [Apesrfools v1]

V2 :[Beatles VI Mega Folder], [Apesrfools v2], [Pumma4]

to be clearer: [Beatles VI Mega Folder], [Apesrfools v2], [Pumma4] are IDENTICAL

Where is a link to Beatles VI Mega folder?

[yymca6]

I Feel Fine versions in Dutch and German pressings, for me, is a pending and not completely resolved issue.
The problem is that the German and Dutch sources are not completely reliable: DESS, Helter Skelter's, "Every Little Thing"'s tracks not rarely do not match in finer details as the "type" of Fake Stereo sound and/or the amount of reverb...
DESS is also renowned for his casually replacement of tracks with the corresponding ones but taken from other rips/releases : not exactly a 'solid ground'

Having said that, leaving out the problematic German drops, taking account only of Dutch releases
and considering these Dr.Ebbetts Dutch drops honest and reliable we can summarize as follows:

DESS did two versions of Dutch Greatest
V1 (Pre-71)
I Feel Fine: fake stereo
All my Loving: hi-hat start

V2 (Post-71)
I Feel Fine: True stereo, whispering intro
All my Loving: regular edited start

-----------------------------------------------------

All the shared versions are DESS and all belongs to one of the two versions above:

V1 : [Apesrfools v1]

V2 :[Beatles VI Mega Folder], [Apesrfools v2], [Pumma4]

to be clearer: [Beatles VI Mega Folder], [Apesrfools v2], [Pumma4] are IDENTICAL

MANY THANKS Maul for this clear explanation. Really useful as always.

[ianbuckers]

Problem is that Discogs consistently notes 1975 dutch pressings as having the v1 DESS variations. Also less conclusively it notes the v1 variations on some 1978 pressings and one 1981 pressing but other 1981 entries note the v2 variations.

So where did the 1971 date come from as the line between the two versions? Could it be wrong and actually be up to 1975? Or even 1978?

There is some unresolved confusion here.

For the time being at least I am removing any pre or post references from these and just label as v1 or v2.

[maul]

The "1975" pressing on Discogs is only a ''symbolic'' reference; they refer to a generic "Mid '70" press, however this doesn't solve the question ...

Could it be that 1971, indicated by Ebbetts and Moptop, is correct?

An explanation could be that in 1971 ''V2'' new stampers began to be utilized in factories, replacing in the years "V1 stampers".

We don't know if Dutch pressed "Hybrid" vinyls (one side V1, the other side V2 or vice-versa) as Capitol did for ''Yesterday And Today'' or if they were more diligent than Capitol using only matching versions stampers (both sides V1 or V2).

Last point: it's quite surprising still finding V1 in the ''1981 Reissue'', but, if we think that Capitol's ''Yesterday And Today'' V1 stampers were available and used till very late 80's, everything is possible

[ianbuckers]

We don't know if Dutch pressed "Hybrid" vinyls (one side V1, the other side V2 or vice-versa) as Capitol did for ''Yesterday And Today'' or if they were more diligent than Capitol using only matching versions stampers (both sides V1 or V2).

Do we think this is indicative of a possible hybrid...

"Matrix / Runout (Runout side A, etched): 1C062-04207-A-2 F 9t 9 D 1 210
Matrix / Runout (Runout side B, etched): YBEX 50070-2F B 530 0 2 9"

...as it has a 1C062 stamper on the A but a YBEX on the B...?

[maul]

We don't know if Dutch pressed "Hybrid" vinyls (one side V1, the other side V2 or vice-versa) as Capitol did for ''Yesterday And Today'' or if they were more diligent than Capitol using only matching versions stampers (both sides V1 or V2).

Do we think this is indicative of a possible hybrid...

"Matrix / Runout (Runout side A, etched): 1C062-04207-A-2 F 9t 9 D 1 210
Matrix / Runout (Runout side B, etched): YBEX 50070-2F B 530 0 2 9"

...as it has a 1C062 stamper on the A but a YBEX on the B...?

Oh yes, it seems a hybrid

checking Discogs it really seems that every YBEX contains (or should contain) V1 and every other matrix is V2
but there is one exception that ruins everything https://www.discogs.com/it/release/2371 ... s-Greatest

more and deeper examination is needed...

[yymca6]

We don't know if Dutch pressed "Hybrid" vinyls (one side V1, the other side V2 or vice-versa) as Capitol did for ''Yesterday And Today'' or if they were more diligent than Capitol using only matching versions stampers (both sides V1 or V2).

Do we think this is indicative of a possible hybrid...

"Matrix / Runout (Runout side A, etched): 1C062-04207-A-2 F 9t 9 D 1 210
Matrix / Runout (Runout side B, etched): YBEX 50070-2F B 530 0 2 9"

...as it has a 1C062 stamper on the A but a YBEX on the B...?

Oh yes, it seems a hybrid

checking Discogs it really seems that every YBEX contains (or should contain) V1 and every other matrix is V2
but there is one exception that ruins everything https://www.discogs.com/it/release/2371 ... s-Greatest

more and deeper examination is needed...

But so far no sets have the complete scans so we could check the matrix numbers of both side A and side B.