Twickenham B rolls Track06 edition
Twickenham B rolls Track06 edition
Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
Kum Back
K1a - mono mp3. 'unfortunately' a fold-down of out of sync channels (track lenghts not a multiple of 588 samples)
K1B - IIRC (stereo) flac set made from the above
K2 - Graphics/Tracks folder structure variant (track lenghts a multiple of 588 samples (CD origin with different offset than the set below))
K3 - a set 'the way that the files were originally torrented back in 2007' (JPGRmusic), shared by Beezer (CD origin with different offset than the set above))
Twelve Days at Twickenham (All with the first 7,75 discs especially lossy with frequencies truncated to 11025? Hz.)
T1a from www. DNoid. me - size of Roll 50B 35530404 bytes
T1b vivalesbootlegs/theaccountant/henk (bzone 2016) - size of Roll 50B 35530404 bytes
T1c from Beatlefan99 - size of Roll 50B 35530404 bytes
So useable for a 'best of' set are
for the earlier rolls: K2 and K3. Mainly K3 with patches from K2 seems the way to go. Rolls 77B-80B are different.
for the later rolls: looks like K3/K2 and T1x could be compared for best results.
K3 is at ever so slightly different speed compared to T1x Rolls 50B-84B. Speed is the same for K3 and K2 rolls 50B - 76B, then all 3 are at different speeds, until roll 81B when K2 and K3 are at equal speed again and 85B when K3 is starts having the same speed as T1x.
My conclusions don't necessarily mean K2 has lots of flaws.
TBTBT6: The Beatles - Twickenham B rolls Track 06 Edition
editing at 16 Bit, avoiding any dithering
rolls 50B - 85B done so far
50B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
51B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
52B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
53B 4 spots patched, common buzz at 15:24 to be repaired differently (T1x?)
54B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
55B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
56B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
57B 2 spots patched
61B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
62B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
63B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
64B 3 spots patched
65B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
66B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
67B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
68B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
69B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
70B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
71B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
72B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
73B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
74B 1 spot patched
75B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
76B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
77B DIFFERENT SPEEDS, K3 with few gaps, K3 slowed down 5 samples, K2 with K3 boundaries used +1 click at 1s repaired
78B DIFFERENT SPEEDS, K2 sped up (13 samples) and click at 37s (K3) repaired
79B DIFFERENT SPEEDS, comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
80B appears lossless , click at 53s is also on T1x, K3 incomplete - last minutes from K2 added, last few samples added to get back to some multiple of 588
81B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
82B both sets equal, visually no anomalies at about +25dB
83B both sets equal, visually no anomalies at about +25dB
84B 1 spot patched
starting with 85B, comparing K3 with T1a
85B K3 good
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The flac files are just copied over, the wav files have changed.
https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20220306NFFAKddk
I hope we find something to improve.
Kum Back
K1a - mono mp3. 'unfortunately' a fold-down of out of sync channels (track lenghts not a multiple of 588 samples)
K1B - IIRC (stereo) flac set made from the above
K2 - Graphics/Tracks folder structure variant (track lenghts a multiple of 588 samples (CD origin with different offset than the set below))
K3 - a set 'the way that the files were originally torrented back in 2007' (JPGRmusic), shared by Beezer (CD origin with different offset than the set above))
Twelve Days at Twickenham (All with the first 7,75 discs especially lossy with frequencies truncated to 11025? Hz.)
T1a from www. DNoid. me - size of Roll 50B 35530404 bytes
T1b vivalesbootlegs/theaccountant/henk (bzone 2016) - size of Roll 50B 35530404 bytes
T1c from Beatlefan99 - size of Roll 50B 35530404 bytes
So useable for a 'best of' set are
for the earlier rolls: K2 and K3. Mainly K3 with patches from K2 seems the way to go. Rolls 77B-80B are different.
for the later rolls: looks like K3/K2 and T1x could be compared for best results.
K3 is at ever so slightly different speed compared to T1x Rolls 50B-84B. Speed is the same for K3 and K2 rolls 50B - 76B, then all 3 are at different speeds, until roll 81B when K2 and K3 are at equal speed again and 85B when K3 is starts having the same speed as T1x.
My conclusions don't necessarily mean K2 has lots of flaws.
TBTBT6: The Beatles - Twickenham B rolls Track 06 Edition
editing at 16 Bit, avoiding any dithering
rolls 50B - 85B done so far
50B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
51B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
52B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
53B 4 spots patched, common buzz at 15:24 to be repaired differently (T1x?)
54B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
55B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
56B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
57B 2 spots patched
61B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
62B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
63B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
64B 3 spots patched
65B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
66B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
67B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
68B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
69B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
70B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
71B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
72B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
73B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
74B 1 spot patched
75B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
76B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
77B DIFFERENT SPEEDS, K3 with few gaps, K3 slowed down 5 samples, K2 with K3 boundaries used +1 click at 1s repaired
78B DIFFERENT SPEEDS, K2 sped up (13 samples) and click at 37s (K3) repaired
79B DIFFERENT SPEEDS, comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
80B appears lossless , click at 53s is also on T1x, K3 incomplete - last minutes from K2 added, last few samples added to get back to some multiple of 588
81B comparison turns out good for K3 +visually no anomalies at about +25dB
82B both sets equal, visually no anomalies at about +25dB
83B both sets equal, visually no anomalies at about +25dB
84B 1 spot patched
starting with 85B, comparing K3 with T1a
85B K3 good
break
The flac files are just copied over, the wav files have changed.
https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20220306NFFAKddk
I hope we find something to improve.
Last edited by Track06 on Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:35 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
I think DNoid.me was one of the addresses from about 3-4 years ago, when it seemed like they were changing their address every fortnight.
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
thewarpedvinyljunkie,thewarpedvinyljunkie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:41 pm I think DNoid.me was one of the addresses from about 3-4 years ago, when it seemed like they were changing their address every fortnight.
You are correct my friend...the beginning of the end for Demonoid and it's heyday!
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
Thanks for the confirmation! It's nice to be right on occasion...micktanner wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:23 am thewarpedvinyljunkie,
You are correct my friend...the beginning of the end for Demonoid and its heyday!
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
Thank you very much for sharing these and I will be using them as upgrades for my Twickenham B rolls.
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
some cryptic notes
85B K3 looking good, K2 ckeck confirm
86B =, T1x worse, K2 check confirm
87B K3 with 5 spots patched (T1x better in fact) K2 ckeck confirm
88B K3 with 1 spot patched, K2 check confirm
89B K3 (=T1x)
90B K3 > T1x, K2 ckeck confirm
91B K3 with 1 spot patched from K2 and 1 from T1x
92B T1x with K3 boundaries (1x2x3)checked
93B 3spots+1segment from T1x, 2 spots from K2
94B K3=K2=T1x
95B K3>>T1x
97B 2 spots patched despite T1x>K3>>K2
98B K2>K3>T1x, K3 with patch or K2 with boundaries ajdusted (=)
99B K3=K2=T1x
100B 3 patches K3>K2>T1x
swapped with 101B on K3
EDIT: Old/wrong tags, new link soon
85B K3 looking good, K2 ckeck confirm
86B =, T1x worse, K2 check confirm
87B K3 with 5 spots patched (T1x better in fact) K2 ckeck confirm
88B K3 with 1 spot patched, K2 check confirm
89B K3 (=T1x)
90B K3 > T1x, K2 ckeck confirm
91B K3 with 1 spot patched from K2 and 1 from T1x
92B T1x with K3 boundaries (1x2x3)checked
93B 3spots+1segment from T1x, 2 spots from K2
94B K3=K2=T1x
95B K3>>T1x
97B 2 spots patched despite T1x>K3>>K2
98B K2>K3>T1x, K3 with patch or K2 with boundaries ajdusted (=)
99B K3=K2=T1x
100B 3 patches K3>K2>T1x
swapped with 101B on K3
EDIT: Old/wrong tags, new link soon
Last edited by Track06 on Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
Thank you for the second installment, as well!
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
due to previously keeping messed up tags:
85B-100B again, 101B-109B added
101B K2=K3=T1x
102B K3>K2>T1x
103B K2=K3=T1x
104B K2>K3>T1x, K3 with 1 spot patched
105B T1>K3>K2, K3 with 3 patches used
106B K3>K2>T1x
107B K3=K2>T1x
108B K3=K2>T1x
109B T1x>K3>K2, K3 with 4 patches used
https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20220309vgzuqIFE
85B-100B again, 101B-109B added
101B K2=K3=T1x
102B K3>K2>T1x
103B K2=K3=T1x
104B K2>K3>T1x, K3 with 1 spot patched
105B T1>K3>K2, K3 with 3 patches used
106B K3>K2>T1x
107B K3=K2>T1x
108B K3=K2>T1x
109B T1x>K3>K2, K3 with 4 patches used
https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20220309vgzuqIFE
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Re: Twickenham B rolls sets shared 'recently' (When was www.DNoid.me demonoid's url?)
Thanks for the correction and expansion, Track06!
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