It' still a difficult road; but it looks like the roundabout was near the Longbridge and perhaps the brick wall seen in the footage is the 'railing of the bridge'. The 'parking' remains troublesome; maybe a connection with the house on the old map? Although it seems demonised before to realise the roundabout. ( I've edited the 1948 aerial picture, think it's a different 'Whitehouse' still standing compered with the roundabout pictures,Longbridge Ave.)
Then an early licensed product or merchandising?
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The plot thickens.
It looks like a roundabout was built c1962, and then enlarged in the early 70s to accommodate the flyover, and was redeveloped again in the 80s when the flyover was enlarged to pass over the roundabout.
This photo is from May 1963 and looks as if the roundabout could be avoided by simply turning left off the bridge and down to Embankment Road. It looks as if you joined the roundabout by following this and turning right, as the black car has done. As far as we know, it would have looked not much different in 1967. The bus would have to have circled the roundabout at least once to put the white house and the hill in front of them. But we don't know why they did this, unless they were uncertain of the route at this point. What we do know is that eventually they found it. The photo would depict part of the view from the white house, but the bus would be out of shot, approaching from the half right. It gets mysterious when we look at the walls hedges and (possibly parked) cars to the left and right of Miss Winters. It looks as if there is a wall on the right, which we don't see in the older photos. The red car on the left looks at a higher level than the bus. There is only one pole. All very confusing. Unfortunately, without a plan of that first roundabout it makes it impossible to explain
All was obliterated when the roundabout was enlarged to create the first flyover, and bypass Plympton. The road we look down in the first photo would have crossed the middle of this roundabout to join what is now the stump at Crabtree. That would make a contemporary view of that first photo about here
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.39207 ... ?entry=ttu
It looks like a roundabout was built c1962, and then enlarged in the early 70s to accommodate the flyover, and was redeveloped again in the 80s when the flyover was enlarged to pass over the roundabout.
This photo is from May 1963 and looks as if the roundabout could be avoided by simply turning left off the bridge and down to Embankment Road. It looks as if you joined the roundabout by following this and turning right, as the black car has done. As far as we know, it would have looked not much different in 1967. The bus would have to have circled the roundabout at least once to put the white house and the hill in front of them. But we don't know why they did this, unless they were uncertain of the route at this point. What we do know is that eventually they found it. The photo would depict part of the view from the white house, but the bus would be out of shot, approaching from the half right. It gets mysterious when we look at the walls hedges and (possibly parked) cars to the left and right of Miss Winters. It looks as if there is a wall on the right, which we don't see in the older photos. The red car on the left looks at a higher level than the bus. There is only one pole. All very confusing. Unfortunately, without a plan of that first roundabout it makes it impossible to explain
All was obliterated when the roundabout was enlarged to create the first flyover, and bypass Plympton. The road we look down in the first photo would have crossed the middle of this roundabout to join what is now the stump at Crabtree. That would make a contemporary view of that first photo about here
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.39207 ... ?entry=ttu
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Plenty of photo’s but also a bit frustrating; slate 5 so close …….
So far; the passed the Long Bridge leaving Plympton
tunbridge wells: " simply turning left off the bridge and to Embankment Road and then to the right joining the roundabout "
( great find anyway)
slate 4 took the roundabout a 360 degrees and up to Plymouth for lunch.
As I suggested earlier “Perhaps roadworks? The route of the bus seems still possible...” I think the photo’s clearly shows the construction work and perhaps the demolishing of the road direct turning left of the bridge was the purpose. “It gets mysterious when we look at the walls hedges and (possibly parked) cars to the left and right of Miss Winters.” Only thing I can think of is a demolished building just near the bridge; it fits with the MMT footage but somehow it seems disappeared on the pictures so far.
harrythebannister:" Slate 5, having watched the video I’m certain they have headed back up the Embankment towards a Marsh Mills". It’s quite possible and if took the A374 they enter the roundabout before the Tamar bridge from a logical site: " The sign with Saltash one way and a Torpoint the other is giving drivers the choice of the two methods of crossing the Tamar"
Seems to fit; bushes, waterfront and the road sign but and perhaps a crucial small part don't match, the wall/ harbour building. On the other hand before entering the bridge there is a bus in font of 'our ' bus and with some imagination and a blind eye on the colour....
So any thoughts?
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So far; the passed the Long Bridge leaving Plympton
tunbridge wells: " simply turning left off the bridge and to Embankment Road and then to the right joining the roundabout "
( great find anyway)
slate 4 took the roundabout a 360 degrees and up to Plymouth for lunch.
As I suggested earlier “Perhaps roadworks? The route of the bus seems still possible...” I think the photo’s clearly shows the construction work and perhaps the demolishing of the road direct turning left of the bridge was the purpose. “It gets mysterious when we look at the walls hedges and (possibly parked) cars to the left and right of Miss Winters.” Only thing I can think of is a demolished building just near the bridge; it fits with the MMT footage but somehow it seems disappeared on the pictures so far.
harrythebannister:" Slate 5, having watched the video I’m certain they have headed back up the Embankment towards a Marsh Mills". It’s quite possible and if took the A374 they enter the roundabout before the Tamar bridge from a logical site: " The sign with Saltash one way and a Torpoint the other is giving drivers the choice of the two methods of crossing the Tamar"
Seems to fit; bushes, waterfront and the road sign but and perhaps a crucial small part don't match, the wall/ harbour building. On the other hand before entering the bridge there is a bus in font of 'our ' bus and with some imagination and a blind eye on the colour....
So any thoughts?
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Incredible research!
Thinking again about slate numbers, as there is some footage on Plymouth Hoe in the film, slate 5 must be before lunch. If they did go back down Embankment Road after Plymouth Hoe it would have at least slate 6.
Thinking again about slate numbers, as there is some footage on Plymouth Hoe in the film, slate 5 must be before lunch. If they did go back down Embankment Road after Plymouth Hoe it would have at least slate 6.
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I was thinking the first 2 images could follow on from the Buckfastleigh scenes from the first day of filming?
The buildings in the background indicate they are going downhill. I thought Ashburton was a possibility as there are some similar buildings, but not a match.
The buildings in the background indicate they are going downhill. I thought Ashburton was a possibility as there are some similar buildings, but not a match.
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Is there more footage then ' the cricket field' ? The cricket field could be a 'filler' with no slate numbers. And if slate 5 is after lunch the route could be A 374. On You-tube is some footage just before the Tamar bridge with a road sign on the right spot:Thinking again about slate numbers, as there is some footage on Plymouth Hoe in the film, slate 5 must be before lunch.
Although it's a different sign it could be altered in 1967; some how it seems in that year 'old' sign were replaced by new ones design by Kinneir & Calvert and those match.
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I think there is a scene where George the Photographer is taking photos of other Photographers[flabbyroad] wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:46 pmIs there more footage then ' the cricket field' ? The cricket field could be a 'filler' with no slate numbers.Thinking again about slate numbers, as there is some footage on Plymouth Hoe in the film, slate 5 must be before lunch.
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What is meant by the "cricket field"? I can't work out which scene is being referred to there.
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'Cricket Field'
Photographers; Is this the scene, it's in the MMT but it could be a 'filler' , the rest is a photo shoot at the Hoe and some filming of entering/ leaving the hotel. ( There is also some privet footage at this point)
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Someone filmed a bush??!!!
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