Magical Mystery Tour Location Question

[Sn00ker]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/V9mmvWPNwAwCqxE59


The view from the a38 flyover above Marsh mills roundabout looking north/north east is a possibility for the same hillside horizon, altough the bus would've been at ground level. There is a white house in that direction (but now obscured).
They wouldn't have logically come off the roundabout in that direction, so not sure.

[[flabbyroad]]

That's a difficult one.

As you said; not quite sure. The route isn't logical for driving to Newquay but perhaps they liked the roundabout for filming reasons.... The area has changed a lot so perhaps it not possible without extra info to pinpoint the outtake. Maybe the pub could be a clue in terms with the parking site? If it is the right spot it seem the view is north/ north east, so looking back were the came from.

tunbridge wells wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:25 pm
The Tecalemit Factory was actually beyond the left turn off for Embankment Road, and would have been on the right hand side of the bus - so it would appear that they may have overshot this and have had to turn around (briefly traveling east) for the factory to appear on the left, as it does in the footage. This would then explain the hill in the background, which looks like the one that now has an artificial ski slope on it.
They would then take a right to get onto Embankment Road, passing some more industrial buildings now demolished and replaced by a large Sainsbury's and the flyover.
Yes, that would make sense, they do seem to be turning around. There is a single remaining white semi detached house to the north east of the site that I think is visible on the footage.

As noticed before one white house is still there:











(On YouTube is some drone footage from the area when they demolished the clay works )

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[[flabbyroad]]

The view seems to rural to be on the approach to Plymouth/embankment Road, so could this be after the lunch stop at Plymouth?

at start of the scene in MMT it looks like the bus takes a sharp turn too the right; a roundabout? some trees and then perhaps some buildings, the road is above the shore / coastline with the coastline to the left. The bus approach a crossroad with a sign : Saltash, Liskead and Tavistock to the right and Torpoint and Davenport to the left ????

All before leaving Plymouth I guess, so any further ideas :











This area has changed a lot; some roads are completely gone others are severely downgraded but is still possible to find a road sign with the Saltash, Liskeard, Tavistock and Torpoint all together on it ;



And some buildings, walls and coastlines:







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[tunbridge wells]

If this is the same white house then the bus must be momentarily heading north towards Longbridge Road which would make the hill not Leigham, but the one with Boringdon Park Golf Course, and Cundy Close, on it now. That would place them having immediately turned right out of Plymouth road, about here
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.39202 ... ?entry=ttu

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This possibly puts them on the old roundabout facing the wrong direction, possibly having gone all the way round, possibly several times. But then we've established they must have had a bit of a mystery tour round the Longbridge area for some of the other Miss Winters shots to be possible.
Before the Devon Expressway appeared in the 1980s, central Plymouth would be bypassed by using the road alongside the Teclamit factory and up the Forder valley and what is now the B3413 through Crownhill to the Tamar Bridge. We know they didn't go that way though.
The view from the flyover, as sn00ker pointed out, gives a better idea of the landscape, but it seems a like for like then & now reproduction isn't possible.

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[tunbridge wells]

I think the most likely route out of Plymouth on leaving the Grand Hotel would be-
Eliot Street/Atheneaum Street - B3240 - across Union Street - A374 to North Cross Roundabout - A386 to Milehouse - straight on to St Budeaux via A3064 (where we see the Tamar Bridge behind Miss Winters on Pemros Road.
I don't think they would have gone via Devonport. That would make the Saltash Liskeard Tavistock sign most likely at Milehouse (as flabbyroad suggests as a possibility) - Torpoint is signed to the right, and it looks like it could say Devonport just below it. That maybe then the old Milehouse bus depot we see on the left with the big grey roof (long gone). I don't think the sign could have been any further on than here.
Incidentally, they would have at some point passed near the ABC cinema on the eastern corner of Union Street and Derry's Cross, where they played in 1964. The site is now the "Grovesner Casino".

[harrythebannister]

Having watched the video I’m certain they have headed back up the Embankment towards a Marsh Mills. The hill to the right of Miss Winters head looks like what is now the ski slope. You can also make out the roofs of what would be the old Tecalemit factory. There they would have turned left towards Crownhill onto St Budeaux and then across the bridge onto Saltash.
The sign with Saltash one way and a Torpoint the other is giving drivers the choice of the two methods of crossing the Tamar. One via Saltash bridge and the other via Torpoint ferry.

[tunbridge wells]

Not so sure. That leaves out that they went to the Grand Hotel on The Hoe for lunch, then leaving Plymouth via Pemros Road?

[[flabbyroad]]

Steamroller Blues:




And perhaps to good to be true:



Guess it's the spot: but the route " Eh it's a mystery to me"

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[tunbridge wells]

Flabbyroad what a great find. Looks like the roundabout was built in 1962.
I think that definitively places them on the roundabout facing the "wrong" way, possibly not sure where they're going.

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I think they probably also went along the Parkway at some point, turned, and then came back to the roundabout, which is how we got some of the earlier angles/views of the Teclamit factory and the hill with the trees on top. Once they'd found their way they headed into town via Embankment Road.
This is a photo I hadn't seen before

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I guess the clue is in the sign in the background. I would suggest this is from when they stopped for ice creams opposite D G Medland's shop at no.57. That could be the shop sign in the background. Looking closely we see possibly this house reflected in the window frame.

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with the view of the shop.....

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[tunbridge wells]

I also found this photo which I think establishes the Tent Field location

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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.43637 ... ?entry=ttu