Thank you for your explanation and samples. I agree that your old analog rip seems to sound a bit better even though it's MP3 vs WAV for the newer adjustment.Engonoceras wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:54 pmThe dynamics would be the same so a non-issue.Beatlesiak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:43 pm what a version is this?
- original with preemphasis (with increased dynamics)?
- the original without preemphasis (with reduced dynamics)?
- or reconstruction of BT for ProUse?
Because I'm lost
Generally I'm looking for the version mentioned by "yymca6"
A CD with pre-emphasis intact basically has a 10+ decibel treble boost added at mastering stage to the WAV files. You would NOT want to listen to that without that boost being reduced by the analog de-emphasis circuit in a CD player or having the EQ modified in a DAW.
To hear the CD as intended you would have to make sure your boot copy of the Toshiba has the pre-emphasis bit manually set in your CD burner software. If you don't set that flag (or don't verify it is set) then you will have a very UN-pleasurable listening experience.
To make a CD with that pre-emphasis removed requires RE-EQing the WAV files in a DAW or other program.
I recorded the analog outs from my CD player years ago and I think those sound slightly better than the DAW adjusted files. The adjusted files sound slightly dull to me. A real Toshiba CD playback sounds great very different than the 1987 and the 2009 masterings.
Something (old analog out rip from Toshiba)
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Something (my own attempt at DAW adjustment).
hxxps://we.tl/t-pRL94bQ9l4
If someone just made an ISO rip from the original Japan disc, would that insure that all the proper flags were already pre-set when burning a disc? If so, it would seem that is a far superior way to share this original mastering than trying to figure out how, or if, those flags are set properly before burning a CD of any individual files shared here. Personally, I don't have a clue how to check flags, or manually set flags in any Burn software.
I think all of us technical neophytes need either an ISO version of the original, or a detailed instruction sheet written to explain how to properly burn these individual files onto a CD so the result actually matches what the playback of an original Toshiba black triangle disc would be outputting.