Birth Of The Beatles, European and US Cuts?

[silver_2000]

There is a Remastered Uncut Version of the BOTB (which is my favourite movie of that type) which was done by FAB a few years ago, but I have never managed to find one to buy at a reasonable price or one to DL, to see how good it really is!

hxxps://www.jagamart.com/biofbe19tvmo.html

Would love that!

[silver_2000]

A European version exists, and is a different cut from the American version. The following changes were made to the European version:

• The prologue, which includes John saying that he wants to see Mickey Mouse is omitted.
• The opening theme song is "My Bonnie" instead of "She Loves You".
• A scene in an art school with a naked woman is included.

• The end credits feature "She Loves You", instead of "My Bonnie".

Here's my copy from BBC TV from Wed 5th Oct 1994 (according to BBC Genome). The 'mickey mouse' quote is there, She Loves you is the opening theme song, the naked artists model is there and the end credits are neither 'She Loves You' or 'My Bonnie' but incidental music. I've no idea which version it is then. Anyway, here it is,

hxxps://we.tl/t-22Wbtb1Ddz

Thank you, this is probably the best I will find!

I wonder what it was shot on? I doubt 35mm just because it's a TV movie, maybe 16mm, wish it could be re-scanned! but to quote Buddy Holly, that'll be the day that I die!

[WOA76]

https://beatles.fandom.com/wiki/Birth_of_the_Beatles

Pete Best's help
Pete Best served as a technical advisor for the production. The film tends to reflect Best's personal account of certain events, and shows some evidence of bias. The film implies that Best was terminated from the band because of resentment toward Best's popularity in Liverpool at the time. In one scene the band are referred to by John Lennon as "Peter Best and his sods" and makes no mention of dissatisfaction with his playing, which has been thoroughly documented, even during the band's early years. George Martin has repeatedly stated that he was not satisfied with the calibre of Best's drumming at the band's EMI audition, and wanted the drum parts played by a studio drummer for future recordings. Ringo Starr, already a longtime friend of the group, proved a better personal and musical match. (Incidentally, Martin also prohibited Starr from playing drums on an early recording session for 'Love Me Do' replacing him with session player Andy White).

However, it must be noticed that there are several accounts that confirm this version of the events, since it has been well documented that Best's popularity with fans was indeed a source of friction, as many female fans considered Best to be the band's best-looking member, and there was one particular event where, after a gig, Best was surrounded at the stage door afterwards by attentive females while the other members were ignored after signing a few autographs. McCartney's father, Jim McCartney, was present at the time and admonished Best by saying: "Why did you have to attract all the attention? Why didn't you call the other lads back? I think that was very selfish of you".

The film received modest ratings when it premiered on American television, and was repeated in January 1981, as a tribute to John Lennon in the weeks after his murder. It later repeated on CBS, on The CBS Late Movie during the 1980s.

A more recent (and less comprehensive, dealing mainly with Stuart Sutcliffe and the band's days in Hamburg, Germany) dramatisation of the early Beatles' years is the 1994 film Backbeat.

[WOA76]

European version
A European version exists, and is a different cut from the American version. The following changes were made to the European version:

Some of the dialogue and text in this version is different.
The opening narration is now done by a British narrator, with the opening text superimposed on a black screen as opposed to a blue screen.
The prologue, which includes John saying that he wants to see Mickey Mouse is omitted.
The opening theme song is "My Bonnie" instead of "She Loves You".
A scene in an art school with a naked woman is included.
The scenes where the Beatles perform at Der Kaiserkeller are longer. They also include two additional song scenes: "Kansas City" and "Shake, Rattle and Roll" (the former has them trip on the stage floor, while the latter has them break it).
The scene where they find Stuart badly beaten has extra dialogue. It also fleshes out Stuart's refusal to see a doctor even more, unlike the regular versions where it abruptly cuts right after John says "Let's get him to a hospital", making the viewer think that Stuart went to a hospital after he got badly beaten, when it is clear that he did not.
The scene where Stuart and Astrid have their moment in bed together is different. The other version has him showing her her new necklace, while this version, has the two of them making romance to each other.
John's bedroom scene with Stuart has extra shots of the others in bed.
The scene where they first talk to Brian Epstein is a little bit longer.
The scene where Brian goes to find the Beatles performing "Love Me Do" at a venue is longer.
The scene where Brian goes to tell the Beatles about George Martin and EMI, has him getting out of a taxi.
In the scene where Cynthia tells John about expecting a baby, John asks her "What are we gonna call him?"
The scene where the Beatles arrive at New York City is longer.
The end credits feature "She Loves You", instead of "My Bonnie".

[WOA76]

There is a Remastered Uncut Version of the BOTB (which is my favourite movie of that type) which was done by FAB a few years ago, but I have never managed to find one to buy at a reasonable price or one to DL, to see how good it really is!

hxxps://www.jagamart.com/biofbe19tvmo.html

Would love that!

found it

https://www.vermontmoviestore.com/products/birthbeat

[WOA76]

A European version exists, and is a different cut from the American version. The following changes were made to the European version:

• The prologue, which includes John saying that he wants to see Mickey Mouse is omitted.
• The opening theme song is "My Bonnie" instead of "She Loves You".
• A scene in an art school with a naked woman is included.

• The end credits feature "She Loves You", instead of "My Bonnie".

Here's my copy from BBC TV from Wed 5th Oct 1994 (according to BBC Genome). The 'mickey mouse' quote is there, She Loves you is the opening theme song, the naked artists model is there and the end credits are neither 'She Loves You' or 'My Bonnie' but incidental music. I've no idea which version it is then. Anyway, here it is,

hxxps://we.tl/t-22Wbtb1Ddz

Thank you, this is probably the best I will find!

I wonder what it was shot on? I doubt 35mm just because it's a TV movie, maybe 16mm, wish it could be re-scanned! but to quote Buddy Holly, that'll be the day that I die!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078865/te ... =ttfc_sa_5

Runtime
1h 44m(104 min)2h(120 min) (includes commercials) (United States)

Sound mix
Dolby Stereo

Color
Color(Technicolor)

Aspect ratio
1.33 : 1

Negative Format
35 mm
Printed Film Format
35 mm

[WOA76]

https://movieozone.com/products/birthbeat


Birth of the Beatles (1979) DVD Remastered - Rare Extended European Version


Birth of the Beatles DVD 1979 (Region 1 - Playable in North America - The US, Canada, Mexico, etc.) Remastered Extended European Version. Color.

Starring: Stephen MacKenna, Rod Culbertson, John Altman, David Wilkinson, Ryan Michael, Ray Ashcroft.

When young British musicians John Lennon (Stephen Mackenna) and Paul McCartney (Rod Culbertson) form a rock 'n' roll group, it morphs into the Beatles, with George Harrison (John Altman), Stu Sutcliffe (David Wilkinson) and Pete Best (Ryan Michael) rounding out the ensemble. Eager to play gigs, the band takes up residency in Hamburg and begins to hone its sound. Various events lead to a shake-up in personnel, and soon new recruit Ringo Starr (Ray Ashcroft) cements the lineup of the Fab Four.

This is the rare remastered extended European version. "Yeah, yeah, yeah..."

[BrianHodkin21]

I seem to remember there was another thread on here around 2021 where a few versions were shared and in quite decent quality, unfortunately I don’t have any of the versions I downloaded from there anymore but it might be worth finding that thread.

[projector]

One of you might get a kick out of this, Beatle biopic very low budget movie, made with help from Alan Williams

Hi All,
Does anyone have a decent quality complete version of this film (All Those Years Ago) they'd be willing to share or point towards? It's not the easiest watch on Youtube as it's stretched out over 10 parts!

[Lord Reith]

I once planned on replacing all the crappy music by Rain with real Beatles music. I did a few feasability tests and it seemed to work.