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WOA76 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:26 pm https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/hamburg-star-club

Few photos I see from Ted on this webpage SO MAY I wish not to have Watermark I love this as a poster in my house

https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news- ... /582877478
Here's that photo without the watermark, and also a few others people might enjoy seeing . . .
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Gringo557 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:43 pm
WOA76 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:26 pm https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/hamburg-star-club

Few photos I see from Ted on this webpage SO MAY I wish not to have Watermark I love this as a poster in my house

https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news- ... /582877478
Here's that photo without the watermark, and also a few others people might enjoy seeing . . .
Omg thank you sooo much
Isn’t there cool photo on webpage
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Never seen that pic of John before with the female vocalist. John had a bionic pinky when it came to rock n roll rhythm guitar. Good to see a pic with that pinky firmly in action.
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greyratfromBZ wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:16 pm Never seen that pic of John before with the female vocalist. John had a bionic pinky when it came to rock n roll rhythm guitar. Good to see a pic with that pinky firmly in action.
She sang with all Group on bootleg there recording her with Kingsize Taylor and the Domino’s
Ted said she play mean guitar as well
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WOA76 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:22 pm
greyratfromBZ wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:16 pm Never seen that pic of John before with the female vocalist. John had a bionic pinky when it came to rock n roll rhythm guitar. Good to see a pic with that pinky firmly in action.
She sang with all Group on bootleg there recording her with Kingsize Taylor and the Domino’s
Ted said she play mean guitar as well
Sorry that's wrong.
You mean Carol Elvin.
The photos were taken in May 1962 and it was Tanya Day.
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👍 thank you cool know more information about this place….
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Bazilnerk wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:10 am Ah, the cats out of the bag then I see! Yes Peter bought the tapes from Larry earlier this year, hence my remark about knowing they wouldn't end up in a dumpster. I said I knew where the tape was, I didn't say Larry had it. :lol:

Here's what happened. A few months the back we were discussing the tape and there were rumours that Jackson had bought the tape, so I asked Hans if he could find out from Larry if there was any truth in it. At the time it was total rubbish, Larry had heard nothing and he wasn't even aware of Jacksons interest.

Larry must have taken things into his own hands as only a week or do later I heard from Hans that Larry had now managed to contact Peter Jackson and that he no longer owned the tape. I was however sworn to secrecy. So perhaps this board should take a tiny bit of credit for mentioning the rumour in the first place.

Glad it's out there now.
Peter talks at length about this in the latest Things We Said Today podcast. I listened to it yesterday (the podcast, that is!). He says he went to Apple and asked for a copy of the tape, and they said "We only have the rights to release it, we don't have the actual tape!" (that in itself is alarming to me). So Peter says he asked his researcher or whoever to find the owner, and she came back with Larry Grossberg. So maybe while she was researching Larry heard something and reached out.

Peter says the tape arrived and was "moldy" but that they have specialists who are able to physically restore it. There was no mention of the backup copy LG made but I hope that was part of the deal too. Then Peter says that MAL can rebalance it but that he wants to go a step further. It's funny, he actually describes something I talked about a couple of years ago where theoretically you could train a super computer to "know" what the studio voices sound like and then rebuild the missing sonic components. This - as far as I know - is still science fiction but I was pleased that they are also thinking this way and what is more have the resources to pursue it. But he talks about that in relation to the Star Club and the distant quality of the vocals.

He also gives some demonstrations of MAL by playing all the stems generated for Day Tripper. All I can say is, wow. This thing is quite a bit more advanced than anything else. The stems are incredibly clean and it was actually able to pull the harmonies apart. Paul and George sounded a little robotic, but the isolation of John singing alone just stopped me in my tracks! Incredible!

The interview is also interesting because it reveals the level of Peter's fannishness. For obvious reasons he would have not kept up with the bootleg scene for the last 20 years but he talks about the swinging Pig cds and all that stuff and wants all the same stuff out that we want. There is a funny comment where he jokingly says Apple are probably thinking "Who have we invited in here?" For sure we have a huge ally in this guy. It's the best thing that ever could have happened. And even if he produces a brilliant restoration of the Star Club and Apple dither and stall and take 20 years to do it, at least someone with clout is behind it.
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I think wish come true a REAL BEATLES FAN knows We want working with Apple :)
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Lord Reith wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:08 pm
Bazilnerk wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:10 am Ah, the cats out of the bag then I see! Yes Peter bought the tapes from Larry earlier this year, hence my remark about knowing they wouldn't end up in a dumpster. I said I knew where the tape was, I didn't say Larry had it. :lol:

Here's what happened. A few months the back we were discussing the tape and there were rumours that Jackson had bought the tape, so I asked Hans if he could find out from Larry if there was any truth in it. At the time it was total rubbish, Larry had heard nothing and he wasn't even aware of Jacksons interest.

Larry must have taken things into his own hands as only a week or do later I heard from Hans that Larry had now managed to contact Peter Jackson and that he no longer owned the tape. I was however sworn to secrecy. So perhaps this board should take a tiny bit of credit for mentioning the rumour in the first place.

Glad it's out there now.
Peter talks at length about this in the latest Things We Said Today podcast. I listened to it yesterday (the podcast, that is!). He says he went to Apple and asked for a copy of the tape, and they said "We only have the rights to release it, we don't have the actual tape!" (that in itself is alarming to me). So Peter says he asked his researcher or whoever to find the owner, and she came back with Larry Grossberg. So maybe while she was researching Larry heard something and reached out.

Peter says the tape arrived and was "moldy" but that they have specialists who are able to physically restore it. There was no mention of the backup copy LG made but I hope that was part of the deal too. Then Peter says that MAL can rebalance it but that he wants to go a step further. It's funny, he actually describes something I talked about a couple of years ago where theoretically you could train a super computer to "know" what the studio voices sound like and then rebuild the missing sonic components. This - as far as I know - is still science fiction but I was pleased that they are also thinking this way and what is more have the resources to pursue it. But he talks about that in relation to the Star Club and the distant quality of the vocals.

He also gives some demonstrations of MAL by playing all the stems generated for Day Tripper. All I can say is, wow. This thing is quite a bit more advanced than anything else. The stems are incredibly clean and it was actually able to pull the harmonies apart. Paul and George sounded a little robotic, but the isolation of John singing alone just stopped me in my tracks! Incredible!

The interview is also interesting because it reveals the level of Peter's fannishness. For obvious reasons he would have not kept up with the bootleg scene for the last 20 years but he talks about the swinging Pig cds and all that stuff and wants all the same stuff out that we want. There is a funny comment where he jokingly says Apple are probably thinking "Who have we invited in here?" For sure we have a huge ally in this guy. It's the best thing that ever could have happened. And even if he produces a brilliant restoration of the Star Club and Apple dither and stall and take 20 years to do it, at least someone with clout is behind it.
I wonder that they did not hand out the tapes to the Beatles as requested in 1998 after the court case!

I hope someone in his camp tells Peter about the Lord Reith work of the SC Tape.
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Lord Reith wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:58 am Speaking of which, don't you find it astonishing that Pete posed for that one photo in front of the rollercoaster... and then LEFT? I mean, she drove them there. Did he walk back home?
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