Does Seltaeb exist in any type of legal entity ?

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Does Seltaeb exist in any type of legal entity ?

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I'm not quite sure if this topic fits here but, even though Beatles' original memorabilia licensed by Seltaeb is still sold at different Beatles conventions and also on the internet, does Seltaeb in any form still exist and if so are their copyrights still in effect ? I've seen lots of things being sold with their name, but they certainly appear to be counterfeits and not original , so I guess my question is are legitimate items still being made or just counterfeits ? Thank you everyone and have a great day :D
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Hello Carose! Good question!
SELTAEB?
Does MAFIA sound descriptive enough?
Was Brian lacking in business skills when he was changing the world forever?
Was there any legal guidance afforded the naive Epstein when negotiating for the band?
If1963 passed Brian by without any professional assistance regarding the legal matters of Artist Management, then it must have been March of 1964 that Brian started to suspect the food didn't agree with him. I bet SELTAEB was a phone on a desk in a closet. They licensed everything and I'm sure they never kept the books on paper. A small cadre of debt-collectors and thug enforcement still meant profit for everyone except The Beatles. If Brian ever had questions for SELTAEB, he probably never got acknowledged. So, was the Deauville Hotel, 6701 Collins Ave in Miami Beach, the headquarters of SELTAEB? Probably in an unofficial capacity. On November 18, 1963, John F. Kennedy had spoken to the Inter-American Press Association at the Deauville Hotel about social injustice, economic welfare, and political democracy. So, if Capitol had been completely poised for The Beatles, then SELTAB must have just been an informal set of unwritten rules that came with a phone number...and not much else. Written quarterly/yearly/profits/expenses would never be verifiable so when did he tell the group about SELTAEB? He probably never did. But, if SELTAEB ever stood for anything to the 5 Beatles...it would have been "LIFE doesn't suck...SITUATIONS do!"
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Still not musical...still tons of revenue and I doubt if the I.R.S. ever hassled SELTAEB.
If I had to guess, I'd say SELTAEB was Capitol Records investors thinking WAY ahead of a gentleman's handshake!
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Handshake's are binding!
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They have a Wiki page which indicates they fell out with Brian Epstein who cancelled their licence.It also talks about the company in the past tense.

In any case, those types of deals don't tend to be forever - usually they are for a fixed term of a few years or something, then they expire. Since Seltaeb are never mentioned these days, I think anything bearing their name is probably just repro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seltaeb

Article says Eppy renegotiated the contract in 1964 to obtain 49% of the proceeds - I didn't know that. Much better than the original 10% deal.
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Mr Bump wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:21 am They have a Wiki page which indicates they fell out with Brian Epstein who cancelled their licence.It also talks about the company in the past tense.
In any case, those types of deals don't tend to be forever - usually they are for a fixed term of a few years or something, then they expire. Since Seltaeb are never mentioned these days, I think anything bearing their name is probably just repro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seltaeb
Article says Eppy renegotiated the contract in 1964 to obtain 49% of the proceeds - I didn't know that. Much better than the original 10% deal.
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Mr Bump wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:21 am They have a Wiki page which indicates they fell out with Brian Epstein who cancelled their licence.It also talks about the company in the past tense.

In any case, those types of deals don't tend to be forever - usually they are for a fixed term of a few years or something, then they expire. Since Seltaeb are never mentioned these days, I think anything bearing their name is probably just repro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seltaeb

Article says Eppy renegotiated the contract in 1964 to obtain 49% of the proceeds - I didn't know that. Much better than the original 10% deal.
With Epstein's re-negotiations , I wonder if all of Seltaebs merchandising reverted to The Beatles control once Selteab went under ? Could it be possible that's why things still show up at festivals and such bearing the original "Seltaeb" name ?? or maybe just well made replicas ?? , I saw a box set on Ebay of 4 individual Beatles tie tacks on black and white cards , not sure if legitimate but they certainly look newer , I'd never seen a box set of those before .
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