O/T - sony sues internet archive over digitised 78s stored online

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O/T - sony sues internet archive over digitised 78s stored online

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2 ... t-archive/
Technically correct but it potentially removes unrestored records that actually sound better than the official releases.
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"wholesale theft” of copyright-protected music...
The Internet Archive’s "blatant infringement includes hundreds of thousands of works by some of the greatest artists of the Twentieth Century,” lawyers for the record companies said in a lawsuit filed Friday in Manhattan federal court.
The companies include a list of 2,749 recordings in the lawsuit, including Bing Crosby singing White Christmas,” that "is but a small sample” of recordings the archive posted without permission, according to the complaint. They are asking the court to order the archive to remove all copyrighted material and pay damages of as much as $150,000 for each infringed work, which for the listed recordings would amount to $372 million.

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Sony is too greedy, & going after recordings over 70 years old, is stupid
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This is a shocker and could spell the end of Internet Archive. (Thanks, Sony.)

I didn't realise they were soliciting sound recordings - I thought they just trawled and preserved old websistes. If they are doing that, they should know better. The risk was always there. Only hope, I guess, is that they have the resources to employ top lawyers who find a technical escape route.
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It doesn't help that some contributors don't realise they are sowing the seeds for destruction because they so foolishly think no one can touch archive.org, formula 1 recently ripped hoards of videos off it especially those who got nuked by YouTube. When will those who flout archive.org take some responsibility before they make a contribution.
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The technical loophole should be a simple one. Most of the 78's are vinyl rips. Crackles, pops, lo-fi, etc. These are not pristine recordings. And many fall in the public domain; That'd be pre-1923 recordings and all cylinder recordings.

Archive could make a pretty strong argument under Title 17 section 108 that they are a library/archive serving the public by providing recordings and material that are presently unobtainable. Ultimately, though, the game may be up for most of the more current audio and video on their website. It was nice while it lasted. I'd expect this kind of a "crackdown" to slowly wind its way through all such websites which have unreported copyrighted material, whether smack dab on the website, or being traded through third-party means.

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People upload full albums to archive.org. If you find them quick enough you can download them. If you're too late you'll find they've been nobbled and only 30 sec samples of each song can be heard. The site keeps a copy of the full thing, it's just not available. I expect they might start do do that with some of these disputed 78's.
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I have downloaded 24-bit files of gramophone records from the Internet Archive that I have, but could never hope to get as good a reproduction as these pros with the dozen styli and methods to play them back. I got a recording of a 1908 gramophone record that I took to school in the third grade, and when I hit a rock with my bicycle it fell out of the carrier and cracked. I thought I might never see or hear another copy. Gawd save them, whoever they were. They did us a service.

Like, when was I ever going to be able to buy a copy of it from Victor? They bulldozed the contents of their library from the beginning to about 1956 to erect a new building in that space. They shoved it all into the Hudson River and built a dock on top of it.
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mojofilter wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:37 am They shoved it all into the Hudson River and built a dock on top of it.
IOW, they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
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