New discovery - Beatles performing live in UK. At Stowe School April 4th '63

[Yellowsubmarine]

On 4th April 1964, before they achieved world-wide popularity, the Beatles performed at Stowe School. Shortly after the performance, they hopped in their Delorean and jumped back to 9th February, just in time to appear on the Ed Sullivan show.

An incredible story!

[Lord Reith]

Now that it's on youtube, it's possible for boys to sit in the auditorium and listen to it on headphones. That would be cool. I wonder if any of them have done that yet.

Sounds like a great time to creep up behind them wearing a Beatle wig.

Ha!

[julesmctrainspotter]

Further to my post a little while ago of Goody's speed corrected versions of both the Original Mono and AI Demix CDs released by Empress Valley, I passed these on to a friend of mine who specialises in remastering audio. Very kindly he has looked at both versions and returned them to me, and given his blessing for both versions to be shared here. His observations are in the Info notepad in each version's folder. The background hum is still there but not so pronounced, and the vocals have been boosted. I now prefer the Original Mono version, not so harsh as the AI Demix, but each to his or her own. Please share your thoughts as I do hope that these versions are improved and perhaps as good as we can hope for. Depending on the general concensus as to which is the better sounding version I will run a copy off to give to the Stowe headmaster when I will see him two weeks today on Old Stoic Day.
Remastered Original Mono:
hxxps://wetransfer.com/downloads/4a94d2 ... TRN_TDL_05
Remastered AI Demix:
hxxps://wetransfer.com/downloads/69f94a ... e=sendgrid

[WOA76]

Further to my post a little while ago of Goody's speed corrected versions of both the Original Mono and AI Demix CDs released by Empress Valley, I passed these on to a friend of mine who specialises in remastering audio. Very kindly he has looked at both versions and returned them to me, and given his blessing for both versions to be shared here. His observations are in the Info notepad in each version's folder. The background hum is still there but not so pronounced, and the vocals have been boosted. I now prefer the Original Mono version, not so harsh as the AI Demix, but each to his or her own. Please share your thoughts as I do hope that these versions are improved and perhaps as good as we can hope for. Depending on the general concensus as to which is the better sounding version I will run a copy off to give to the Stowe headmaster when I will see him two weeks today on Old Stoic Day.
Remastered Original Mono:
[url]hxxps://wetransfer.com/downloads/4a94d237c3329b12f3a9947fcd2c017720230909132812/0bfc91?utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_05&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&trk=TRN_TDL_05[/url]
Remastered AI Demix:
[url]hxxps://wetransfer.com/downloads/69f94ade9623a6bbf35a514fc971a3b320230909134208/14ed67026b0ec08b37630a697026f3e820230909134208/207cf6?trk=TRN_TDL_01&utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid[/url]

thank you

[WOA76]

https://webgrafikk.com/blog/news/beatle ... iscovered/

Beatles concert available and second recording discovered
BY ADMIN · PUBLISHED JUNE 20, 2023 · UPDATED JUNE 20, 2023


The Beatles on stage at the theatre in Stowe School, April 4, 1963.In a new episode of the BBC radio program “Front Row”, presenter Samira takes us to the British Library, where the tape recording of the Beatles concert at Stowe School was transferred digitally to the library’s sound archive. The recording is saved as is, without any attempt to edit or improve the sound. A digital copy will be available for the library’s listening room, where anyone can visit and listen to the concert recording. One has to register in advance, and the recording must be listened to on site.

Another recording of the Beatles from the same day has also come to light.
At the dinner table

The father of two girls, Maggie and Jan (12 and 15 years old at the time) who were at the concert, had hidden a microphone in a flower pot and recorded the conversation that took place during the dinner the Beatles had that day. It was his wife who had prepared a roast chicken dinner for the quartet, and as thanks for this the girls were allowed to be spectators during the concert, as the only girls.
The girls took part in the Front Row episode, and brought the tape recording of the dinner conversation with them. It was mostly John and Paul who chatted, as George had a cold and was resting his vocal cords. Amongst other subjects, John talked about playing in Hamburg.

No information is given in the program about the further fate of this recording.


The attendants at the dinner party, including Maggie and Jan.

Beatles expert Mark Lewisohn said that this reminded him of when “Let It Be” director Michael Lindsay-Hogg recorded the lunchtime conversation between John and Paul in January 1969. It was also secretly recorded in the same fashion, through a hidden microphone in a flower pot.

[BDJ]

Maybe I'm missing some information somewhere, but I wondered why 'Money' breaks off in the middle in the song. I picked up somewhere (but can't find it now), that the remainder of the song had been overwritten with other music?

However, this raises problems, because only ca 1 minute is missing, and the tape continues with I Saw Her Standing There. Why record just a minute in the middle of the tape?

Then I checked how long the tape in Butoba MT 5 recorder could record: 1 hour at the high speed setting. Now the total concert - as bootlegged - runs for 1h1m50s. But note that the second half of the reprise of I Saw Her Standing There is actually copied from the first time it was played! So overall playing time of the recorded of the concert is close to an hour.

So what happened? My theory is that the tape operator noticed that the tape was close to running out an he stopped recording halfway through Money; and he started again when they played I Saw Her Standing There; and then the tape ran out halfway through I Saw Her Standing There.

Alternative theory is that the tape ran out during Money, and the tape operator flipped it to side 2 so he could record another hour. This alternative has a problem: why did he stop recording halfway through I Saw Her Standing There? Did the batteries run out? I Could not find the actual battery life of the Butoba MT 5, and - of course - it would depend on how well the batteries were charged before he started recording the concert.

Any thoughts?

[Track06]

(1200ft)/(3 3/4ips) = 64min

[Lord Reith]

Maybe I'm missing some information somewhere, but I wondered why 'Money' breaks off in the middle in the song. I picked up somewhere (but can't find it now), that the remainder of the song had been overwritten with other music?

However, this raises problems, because only ca 1 minute is missing, and the tape continues with I Saw Her Standing There. Why record just a minute in the middle of the tape?

Then I checked how long the tape in Butoba MT 5 recorder could record: 1 hour at the high speed setting. Now the total concert - as bootlegged - runs for 1h1m50s. But note that the second half of the reprise of I Saw Her Standing There is actually copied from the first time it was played! So overall playing time of the recorded of the concert is close to an hour.

So what happened? My theory is that the tape operator noticed that the tape was close to running out an he stopped recording halfway through Money; and he started again when they played I Saw Her Standing There; and then the tape ran out halfway through I Saw Her Standing There.

Alternative theory is that the tape ran out during Money, and the tape operator flipped it to side 2 so he could record another hour. This alternative has a problem: why did he stop recording halfway through I Saw Her Standing There? Did the batteries run out? I Could not find the actual battery life of the Butoba MT 5, and - of course - it would depend on how well the batteries were charged before he started recording the concert.

Any thoughts?

It's a two sided tape (64 mins each side) and on side 2 are dubs of comedy records. On side 1 is the Beatles concert which runs out halfway through I saw Her Standing There. But making an unwelcome sudden appearance partway through Money is Surfin' Bird by The Trashmen, categorically my least favourite song of all time. In fact I am convinced this is some kind of cosmic punishment for one of my past transgressions! So it looks as though when he was dubbing his records at some later point he mistook Side 1 of the tape for Side 2 and obliterated part of the show.

SB only goes for a couple of minutes but I believe there is also some dead air at the start of the reel because The Beatles started late. The recorder was at the front at the foot of the stage and invisible to The Beatles, and John Bloomfield was 8 rows back I think. So he had no easy way of checking on the recording. I suspect he pressed RECORD at the time The Beatles were expected to go on, and then there was a delay of a few minutes which left only c. 62 mins left and SB accounts for the other missing couple of minutes.

Make sense?

[BDJ]

That does make sense. I also found in the manual of the recorder that batteries would last from 20 to 40 hours. So that makes it unlikely they would run out during the final ISHST.

What still appears a bit strange is that Money seems to fade out for 10 seconds or so. If it was overwritten, wouldn't you expect a hard cut?

NB: Indeed a tragic choice to use SB to obliterate Money. A Dutch comedian, van Duijn, made a career out of miming to this song.

[Choking Smoker]

Further to my post a little while ago of Goody's speed corrected versions of both the Original Mono and AI Demix CDs released by Empress Valley, I passed these on to a friend of mine who specialises in remastering audio. Very kindly he has looked at both versions and returned them to me, and given his blessing for both versions to be shared here. His observations are in the Info notepad in each version's folder. The background hum is still there but not so pronounced, and the vocals have been boosted. I now prefer the Original Mono version, not so harsh as the AI Demix, but each to his or her own. Please share your thoughts as I do hope that these versions are improved and perhaps as good as we can hope for. Depending on the general concensus as to which is the better sounding version I will run a copy off to give to the Stowe headmaster when I will see him two weeks today on Old Stoic Day.
Remastered Original Mono:
[url]hxxps://wetransfer.com/downloads/4a94d237c3329b12f3a9947fcd2c017720230909132812/0bfc91?utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_05&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&trk=TRN_TDL_05[/url]
Remastered AI Demix:
[url]hxxps://wetransfer.com/downloads/69f94ade9623a6bbf35a514fc971a3b320230909134208/14ed67026b0ec08b37630a697026f3e820230909134208/207cf6?trk=TRN_TDL_01&utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid[/url]

I think that these are the best sounding versions I've heard yet from the complete recording, thanks. I'm confident that a better sounding copy of the original will emerge in the near future but thanks to you and your friend.