millerTEK wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:54 am
... So regarding your audio comment - they didn't have surround sound back then like they do today. I have all of the original US, Laserdisc, etc releases and they are not in surround or even stereo. REMEMBER - the audio source for the video was NAGRA and in mono. Even Peter Jackson with today's technology - had the mono source to work with as well...he expanded that mono audio to 7.1 surround, but really if you listen carefully, it is just echo and some bass/treble separations for those channels. So that 7.1 surround is not discrete channels, but each and signal bouncing...
I guess i should have been more clear on my original comment, so let me try to be more specific:
I was referring to the specific segment on "Some Other Guy" in the Blu-Ray 7.1 Mix because the EQ and separation is far better, even if the rear channels are just bouncing, what i did mention was in reference, say, to the center part of this mix in particular, PJ team did a great work with their separation software, and the difference is really noticed in this "main section" (Left/right/center and LFE signals in the mix), they have a good use of this, the guitars sounds really sharp, clear and raw at the same time, while the bass shines through the LFE (my MX180 picked those up really nice). this is different in the Dolby Atmos Mix, which segments like the one i mentioned even sounds fake/less natural (so to speak), the rest, ok, given what is available is a nice work nevertheless
I know that by design most everything pre-65, let alone the early recordings, can't be mixed in 5.1, 7.1 or Dolby Atmos and making any justice to them, because the recording technics at the time make it more difficult and were not designed originally like that, so we take what exist
millerTEK wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:54 am
Now, let's look at the Furmanek audio and video remixing...he too used technology that existing back then (not as advanced as what PJ got to use!). His Video remastering was limited to what existed back then...and though His AUDIO remixing to Stereo definitely was nice - you also have to consider another audio source HE HAD as well. When the Beatles moved to Apple - though the NAGRA audio was still mono - we know SOME ITEMS were recorded in multitrack by Glyn Johns. He might have had access to those sources to help his stereo remixing as well.
... The only thing i can answer to this is reiterate that i have never been a fan of Furmanek mixes, even considering the tech limitations he have at the time, for just to put it simple, his work sound really artificial -need to reiterate: to ME-, some of it sounds ok, some of it just don't , but in this particular part, and paraphrasing: "sound depends on the listener experience" so you may like his work, is fine by me, i respect you like it
... but is not my cup of tea