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csnyfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:55 am I would assume the additional 15 seconds only exist on the dedicated 4-track tape for the marching effects, not on the 2 effects tracks of the actual 4-track tape of the song.

Patrick Healy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:39 pm

csnyfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:55 am I would assume the additional 15 seconds only exist on the dedicated 4-track tape for the marching effects, not on the 2 effects tracks of the actual 4-track tape of the song.

Do you think that tape and the other separate effects tapes still exist?

Ziggy C wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:46 pm This is certainly a pricy package right now. A pretty penny spent for something that comes up slightly short of satisfying.

A new (and frankly unnecessary) remix by Giles Martin. A repackage of the still superior original Mono Mix. An afterfart (perhaps a fuzzy, or even less, a freep,) of a 10 minute CD single.

The only part that holds my interest is the middle 2 CD's which contain the alternate takes, versions, and outtakes. And even that is a letdown.
CD #2 clocks in at barely over 40 minutes. CD #3 is a bit more generous, clocking in at nearly 41 minutes. The book is, well, a book. Why is it part of a CD set? That part eludes me.

Two CD's of interest which are far less than packed with goodies. And I am even less excited because I am one of those who gets a thrill out listening to a good hi-res surround mix.

$109 for the SDE CD and $192 for the vinyl from Amazon.

Gonna have to pass on this one.

csnyfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:07 pm

Patrick Healy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:39 pm

csnyfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:55 am I would assume the additional 15 seconds only exist on the dedicated 4-track tape for the marching effects, not on the 2 effects tracks of the actual 4-track tape of the song.

Do you think that tape and the other separate effects tapes still exist?

Probably. I think it still existed when JB cataloged the tapes in the early 80s, so it will most likely still exist.

tulirepo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:35 pm

csnyfan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:55 am I would assume the additional 15 seconds only exist on the dedicated 4-track tape for the marching effects, not on the 2 effects tracks of the actual 4-track tape of the song.

I think you're right. At the beginning of the new mix, right before the first marching stomp, it sounds like someone is starting a tape.

Lord Reith wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:27 am

Mr Bump wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:56 am

Rupert Pupkin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:43 pm In comparison to Lord Reith "real live tempo" of "Rain" (I think it's on his suite Evolver) - he posted this recently - is not that fast. I don't think that Ringo could not play that fast. But it's a freaking faster tempo. I was just wondering how "accurate" this "real live" tempo is, because the official stuff is not something you can 100% trust. Perhaps later someone like csnyfan can give us his expertise, and some mix.

Same thing crossed my mind. It sounds too fast.

I wonder if anyone could analyse it and determine what key it was actually played in. Might be tricky to do - guitars can have capos and drum and bass not easy to judge.

Alternatvely, we just trust it was copied from original studio tapes recorded at that tempo.

I would never have expected them to play in the key of Bflat, because of the way the guitar is played John and George must be using capos (that's a band that goes on the neck to make the notes higher, like George uses on If I Needed Someone in Tokyo). When I was mixing that fast version I just assumed it would be in the key of A because they are playing open chords and at that pitch it is already breakneck speed. But who knows.

masterjedi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:27 pm

Lord Reith wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:27 am I would never have expected them to play in the key of Bflat, because of the way the guitar is played John and George must be using capos (that's a band that goes on the neck to make the notes higher, like George uses on If I Needed Someone in Tokyo). When I was mixing that fast version I just assumed it would be in the key of A because they are playing open chords and at that pitch it is already breakneck speed. But who knows.

There are 2 equal distributions of hum in the fast track, one at 50Hz and one at 61Hz. So the track is at the right speed. The bass was overdubbed at the slower speed though because if you slow it down so that the 61Hz hum is at 50Hz, it's pretty close to the release speed.