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Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:50 pm
by Sn00ker
[flabbyroad] wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:13 am
11th Allsop Place/ Teignmouth :
According to The Beatles Anthology book they should start at 7:30 am at Allsop Place, Lewisohn points out in The complete Beatles Chronicle ‘ it eventually arrived two hours late’ although Lewisohn put the original time for departure at 10:45 it could be the actually departing time seen the original start at 7:30.
Virginia Water an hour later, approximately 11:45? (Slate 1 take 4 is 11:35, and Mandy is seen at 11:45 so there is a little ‘conflict’ about timing but the filming looks like near Virginia Water) Little Nicola on her mothers lap sees a road sign (white cross) and perhaps a bridge, so a footpath perhaps?
By the end of the day they were in Teighmouth ( By bus or car) and there was a drizzle for four hours, so perhaps the ‘rainy day’ captures were in the second half of their journey….
In the original MMT there is a ‘filler’ shot when Mandy asks the passenger look out the window; you can spot a AA- box…..
Any ideas ......
fl.
The location is here, so from the 13th on the way to Widdecombe. The building on the side of the road in the Mandy shot has gone but is present on the old OS maps. (Unless the clapperboard is in the same continuous shot I would take them all with a pinch of salt).
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.53520 ... 384!8i8192
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:21 pm
by [flabbyroad]
Nice one; so the 13th…. ( I’m trying to forget the slate’s…. ) toen I’m confused over the date; shouldn’t it be the 12th ?
fl.
Ps.
Put it on the map later; holiday
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:13 am
by Sn00ker
[flabbyroad] wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:21 pm
Nice one; so the 13th…. ( I’m trying to forget the slate’s…. ) toen I’m confused over the date; shouldn’t it be the 12th ?
fl.
Ps.
Put it on the map later; holiday
Sorry, yes the 12th
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:18 am
by Sn00ker
I've always assumed that these are from the 11th as it looks like there is rain on the windows:
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:40 am
by Sn00ker
This one is somewhere near here on Plymouth Road, before they turn left onto Embankment Road, hard to pinpoint due to road changes:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.39185 ... 312!8i6656
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:42 am
by Sn00ker
Then slightly further on in the footage there are some works/factory buildings in the background. It looks to be part of the same location but there is an edit just before this, possibly/probably also on Plymouth Road ??
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 am
by tunbridge wells
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So hard to be sure when the image is so blurry, but possibly Courtenay Road, in Teignmouth?
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Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:50 pm
by Sn00ker
tunbridge wells wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 am
mmt120.PNG
So hard to be sure when the image is so blurry, but possibly Courtenay Road, in Teignmouth?
mmt123.jpg
Yes, as you say it's a difficult one. Not sure about Teignmouth as the road seems to be on an incline judging from the front gardens walls.
I thought it could be Wooton Grove in Sherborne but the front gardens don't look long enough:
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:56 pm
by Sn00ker
These are better captures of what presumably is Plymouth Road or thereabouts (although we can't rely on any continuity). Quite substantial buildings in the background.
Re: Magical Mystery Tour Location Question
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:34 am
by tunbridge wells
It's a difficult one to get exactly - certainly near Marsh Mills. There seems to be no trace of any of the buildings in the background now, and old photos of the area don't seem to include anything resembling them. The clue would then be the hill in the background, which also doesn't seem to exist either.
It could be further back along Plymouth Road towards Plympton, but you would see a continuous ridge in the background from there, not a hill. My conjecture would then be that it is further down Embankment Road, possibly even as far down as the industrial estate on Gdynia Way, and we are seeing one of the hills behind Plymstock, on the other side of the river.
Very hard to know for sure as so much of the area has since been redeveloped beyond recognition.