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Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:54 pm
by Bazilnerk
paul62 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:06 am Yes, I think the old formulations used whale oil, which kept them working well (and I'm happy that the whales are left to thrive in the sea rather than be used to make tapes and things nowadays!!).
Correct. I assume that modern formulations are more stable, but I haven't bought any tapes stock, of any kind, for about 15 years.

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:00 pm
by zaval80
paul62 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:32 am I have an Ampex Grand Master I cassette and soon after I'd bought it, I'd taped an LP ("Their Satanic Majesties Request", as it turns out) and it started to shed a lot of white stuff each time I played the cassette. Freaky to see. The actual cassette mechanism was smooth.
I had a reel which started to generate this white stuff all of a sudden. Turned out, my stack of reels was in the vicinity of a window, and even if the window was opened for just a little in the cold season, it was enough for that partucular reel (but not others) to feel unwell.

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:46 am
by Bazilnerk
zaval80 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:00 pm I had a reel which started to generate this white stuff all of a sudden. Turned out, my stack of reels was in the vicinity of a window, and even if the window was opened for just a little in the cold season, it was enough for that particular reel (but not others) to feel unwell.
That is a different problem, not Sticky Shed. The white residue is a waxy acid from an unstable formulation. You'll find BASF and some Scotch often develop this. I've rectified this by running the tape through a lint free cloth held lightly between the fingers. That removes the residue. I then use a tiny amount of silicone based oil on a cloth and run the tape through that once more will usually get the tape to play successfully.

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:10 pm
by General Pepper
Bazilnerk wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:30 pm Don't know why the Decca tape was baked, unless it was a 70's dupe. 1960's tape does NOT need baking!

You'd think Emerick might have mentioned he had the tape during Anthology considering that they used a couple of tracks from George Martin's acetates.

Wonder where Besame Mucho came from then. We know that a tape copy of the song was found and EMI had it by the time they made Sessions. Perhaps that came via Emerick all along.
Besame Mucho and Love Me Do were on acetates, I believe.

BM was around, while LMD was found in the back of a cupboard in George Martin's house while they were putting Anthology together. Completely forgotten, supposedly.

GP

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:24 pm
by Bazilnerk
Besame Mucho was from a tape source from "a collector" Mark Lewisohn says "remarkably, one of the four songs recorded survives on a private reel discovered in the eighties"

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:55 pm
by Lord Reith
Bazilnerk wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:24 pm Besame Mucho was from a tape source from "a collector" Mark Lewisohn says "remarkably, one of the four songs recorded survives on a private reel discovered in the eighties"
Maybe it was just a ruse though to protect Geoff? He could just have dubbed it off onto a reel and sent it anonymously to EMI.

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:02 am
by Megazeti
When did the box image first surface?

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:40 am
by Lord Reith
Megazeti wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:02 am When did the box image first surface?
A year or two ago. Right when the court case started.

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:08 am
by jpgrcat
Lord Reith wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 am It's the complete session tape to the June 6th session.

june 6th session tape box.jpg
Going by the Photo's Notes:...Timings are Approximent

Besame Mucho [1962-06-06 Take 1] 2:17
Love Me Do [1962-06-06 Take 1] 2:19
Love Me Do [1962-06-06 Take 2-Breakdown]
Love Me Do [1962-06-06 Take-3 Breakdown]
Love Me Do [1962-06-06 Take 4-Best] [Laquer] 2:30
P.S. I Love You [1962-06-06 Take 1-Best] [Laquer] 2:00
P.S. I Love You [1962-06-06 Take 2-False Start]
P.S. I Love You [1962-06-06 Take 3-Breakdown]
P.S. I Love You [1962-06-06 Take 4] 2:00
P.S. I Love You [1962-06-06 Take 5-Unannounced] 2:00
Ask Me Why [1962-06-06 Take 1] 4:20

Re: Geoff Emerick tape

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:07 am
by Lord Reith
If take 4 of Love Me Do was the "best", can you imagine how bad the other take was?!