kolive wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:20 pm
Yes, I was mostly worried about 4. "Glyn Johns' final"
(3 and 4 are also sometimes referred to as 1 and 2 - ie 69 and 70 mixes).
It would be great if you can repost your table with
1 2 3a, 3b, 4 and 5 (for ROW).
Here it is : DDSI matching A/B Road 1.1/ Sulpy 2006
ROW is still an enigma, it needs more 'study' (and to tell the truth I have yet to 'examine' 3b/Japan CD)
bonus chart : Glyn Johns remixes from another point of view
tulirepo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:14 pm
I have never heard the Wizardo bootleg. Is it really EXACTLY the same mix as the Japanese GB from 2021? What puzzles me among other things is the question as to when the feedback squeal in Teddy Boy was masked by the faint "swoosh" that we hear on both new releases. Was this done in 1969 or recently for the Anniversary Set? Anybody knows? Educated guesses?
It's exactly the same but terrible quality. It is stereo but sounds like it was copied from a battery powered machine that was gradually running down during the transfer. So while the first track is more or less at the right speed, by the conclusion of the lp the speed error is -12% (!)
I listened to that old boot (as part of Rennaissance) dozens if not hundreds of times. In the days before Ultra rare Trax, the concept of an unreleased Beatles album in stereo was mind blowing.
kolive wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:20 pm
Yes, I was mostly worried about 4. "Glyn Johns' final"
(3 and 4 are also sometimes referred to as 1 and 2 - ie 69 and 70 mixes).
It would be great if you can repost your table with
1 2 3a, 3b, 4 and 5 (for ROW).
Here it is : DDSI matching A/B Road 1.1/ Sulpy 2006
ROW is still an enigma, it needs more 'study' (and to tell the truth I have yet to 'examine' 3b/Japan CD)
bonus chart : Glyn Johns remixes from another point of view
Thanks Maul, these tables are really useful (as memory doesn't stick as well as it used to).
I was also thinking of the really simple table you made a few days ago with the version numbers running
on the left vertically.
Then a remaining issue seems to be what is the correct 3a.
30 days, with the fews seconds lopped off, or essentially all other sources
(I suspect the latter - but how can we know for sure)
Does anyone know if the Tonto release is also missing the piano in the beginning of 909.
Lord Reith wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:57 pm
It's exactly the same but terrible quality. It is stereo but sounds like it was copied from a battery powered machine that was gradually running down during the transfer. So while the first track is more or less at the right speed, by the conclusion of the lp the speed error is -12% (!)
I listened to that old boot (as part of Rennaissance) dozens if not hundreds of times. In the days before Ultra rare Trax, the concept of an unreleased Beatles album in stereo was mind blowing.
Thanks. Actually Renaissance was my first encounter with the Get Back album as well. I traded it away after I had bought a copy of the Tonto version (which I still think is a beautiful bootleg and very good sounding). The subtle differences in Dig A Pony/I've Got A Feeling escaped me then.
As for the Teddy Boy squeal, I am quite convinced, its disappearance is a recent artefact. I am not 100% sure but ithe squeal must have been present on the Renaissance boot.
kolive wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:24 pm
Thanks Maul, these tables are really useful (as memory doesn't stick as well as it used to).
I was also thinking of the really simple table you made a few days ago with the version numbers running
on the left vertically.
Then a remaining issue seems to be what is the correct 3a.
30 days, with the fews seconds lopped off, or essentially all other sources
(I suspect the latter - but how can we know for sure)
Does anyone know if the Tonto release is also missing the piano in the beginning of 909.
kolive wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:24 pm
Thanks Maul, these tables are really useful (as memory doesn't stick as well as it used to).
I was also thinking of the really simple table you made a few days ago with the version numbers running
on the left vertically.
LFSDoc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:09 am
the Tonto LP has the piano intro complete
Thanks for that info. So its only the 30days version missing the intro.
and likely that other versions are correct. That makes more sense and why PC imported it in.