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Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 4:01 pm
by harrythebannister
I’m loving Revolution....great work again.

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:40 pm
by Tex
SBFC wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 2:36 pm Lord Reith in your explanation of “Aerial Tour Instrumental” you talk about experimental overdubs. Through your work how could “I Am the Walrus” and “Tomorrow Never Knows” which use special effects be mixed?
With "I am the Walrus" the mono mix contains a radio sweep added LIVE during mixing. The actual bit of the Shakespeare play DOES exist it has been bootlegged.

With "Tomorrow Never Knows" the tape loop drops are ON the multi-track so no remixing issues. There are no effects added during mixing as far as I know (excepting the compression) it's all on the multi-track. For some reason this track gets constantly pegged as one that can't be remixed. It appears people keep misreading the Lewisohn book and conflate the recording with the mixing. The loops were recorded LIVE to one track of the multi-track not mixed LIVE into the mono and stereo mixes.

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:22 am
by Lord Reith
JoeWadley wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 3:08 pm What is the future of these mixes. Are they going to be part of Abracabra! or is this a standalone project?
They'll be part of Abracadabra but I like to preview them as it helps spot errors or things that could be improved. I won't be re-upping them though so anyone who misses them will have to wait for Abracadabra.
SBFC wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 2:36 pm Through your work how could “I Am the Walrus” and “Tomorrow Never Knows” which use special effects be mixed? I am not a specialist in audio technique, but these two songs which are part of my favorites, come to mind
I can isolate the live radio dubs on IATW. I was going to do that anyway but since you've mentioned it I'll have a go at it later today. TNK could also be done but I don't think that would be as interesting. Isn't there a version of the mono Revolver lp with a different mix of TNK that was recalled? That would be more interesting to do, but I don't have that mix.

Anyway, I'm glad people are enjoying them.

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:32 am
by Tex
I ran "Tomorrow Never Knows" through one of those auto-separate websites and it pulled vocal out just enough so that it could be panned around a little in a remix. The result was not great though but maybe someone with better tools can do better (hint). On the actual multi-track the main lead vocal is actually mixed with the tamboura drone they are NOT separated.

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:32 am
by Notecnirp
Lord Reith, sir, since this will be part of Abracadabra, does it mean that there will be a White Album Abracadabra in the near future? I'd asked this because of the Revolution Take 20 elover mix.. Or is this be part of an Past Master Abracadabra?

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:23 am
by Muzair
Lord Reith wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:47 am Btw I just remembered there's an account in Pete Shotton's book....
I've always wanted to read that book and I've never come across a copy. Is it worth tracking down?

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 4:02 am
by onemojofilter
Muzair wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:23 am
Lord Reith wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:47 am Btw I just remembered there's an account in Pete Shotton's book....
I've always wanted to read that book and I've never come across a copy. Is it worth tracking down?
For the completists... some details of John’s life (childhood, first night with Yoko, New York in the late seventies) are unique to Shotton’s narrative but the rest of the book is filled out with the inevitable stories he wasn’t around for. He claims to have contributed to a few Beatles songs. Not saying I don’t believe him, but Mal made the same claim as did Donovan and a bunch of others.

Mark Lewisohn’s book is the best of all of them, for what it’s worth. Better researched, citations, sources that the other books just don’t have.

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 7:49 am
by Hannibal Starr
Many Thanks Great as Usual

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:55 am
by ringo9
Lord I'm in awe at your talent and generosity. You make so many people happy with your work!!!!!!

Re: EVOLVER (formerly "Two new ones")

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:04 pm
by Lord Reith
Notecnirp wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 2:32 am Lord Reith, sir, since this will be part of Abracadabra, does it mean that there will be a White Album Abracadabra in the near future? I'd asked this because of the Revolution Take 20 elover mix.. Or is this be part of an Past Master Abracadabra?
There won't be a white album abracadabra, just some outtakes.
Muzair wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:23 am
Lord Reith wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:47 am Btw I just remembered there's an account in Pete Shotton's book....
I've always wanted to read that book and I've never come across a copy. Is it worth tracking down?
It's pretty bawdy but enjoyable. The stories from John's school days are hilarious. After that it gets a bit depressing because it jumps forward ten years to Yoko and she clearly hated his guts.
ringo9 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:55 am Lord I'm in awe at your talent and generosity. You make so many people happy with your work!!!!!!
Thankyou sir.