Birth Of The Beatles, European and US Cuts?
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She was involved with BackBeat, Pete was involved in this
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One of you might get a kick out of this, Beatle biopic very low budget movie, made with help from Alan Williams
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I do not have them both, just the European version, ,
the US version used to be on YouTube a few months ago, had a few extra scenes, wanted to add it all together, definitive version
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I found some interesting notes on the differences between the U.S. and European versions. Sorry for the messy bullet points 
A European version exists, and is a different cut from the American version. The following changes were made to the European version:
• Some of the dialogue and text in this version is different.
• The opening narration is now done by a British narrator, with the opening text superimposed on a black screen as opposed to a blue screen.
• The prologue, which includes John saying that he wants to see Mickey Mouse is omitted.
• The opening theme song is "My Bonnie" instead of "She Loves You".
• A scene in an art school with a naked woman is included.
• The scenes where the Beatles perform at Der Kaiserkeller are longer. They also include two additional song scenes: "Kansas City" and "Shake, Rattle and Roll" (the former has them trip on the stage floor, while the latter has them break it).
• The scene where they find Stuart badly beaten has extra dialogue. It also fleshes out Stuart's refusal to see a doctor even more, unlike the regular versions where it abruptly cuts right after John says "Let's get him to a hospital", making the viewer think that Stuart went to a hospital after he got badly beaten, when it is clear that he did not.
• The scene where Stuart and Astrid have their moment in bed together is different. The other version has him showing her her new necklace, while this version, has the two of them making romance to each other.
• John's bedroom scene with Stuart has extra shots of the others in bed.
• The scene where they first talk to Brian Epstein is a little bit longer.
• The scene where Brian goes to find the Beatles performing "Love Me Do" at a venue is longer.
• The scene where Brian goes to tell the Beatles about George Martin and EMI, has him getting out of a taxi.
• In the scene where Cynthia tells John about expecting a baby, John asks her "What are we gonna call him?"
• The scene where the Beatles arrive at New York City is longer.
• The end credits feature "She Loves You", instead of "My Bonnie".
A European version exists, and is a different cut from the American version. The following changes were made to the European version:
• Some of the dialogue and text in this version is different.
• The opening narration is now done by a British narrator, with the opening text superimposed on a black screen as opposed to a blue screen.
• The prologue, which includes John saying that he wants to see Mickey Mouse is omitted.
• The opening theme song is "My Bonnie" instead of "She Loves You".
• A scene in an art school with a naked woman is included.
• The scenes where the Beatles perform at Der Kaiserkeller are longer. They also include two additional song scenes: "Kansas City" and "Shake, Rattle and Roll" (the former has them trip on the stage floor, while the latter has them break it).
• The scene where they find Stuart badly beaten has extra dialogue. It also fleshes out Stuart's refusal to see a doctor even more, unlike the regular versions where it abruptly cuts right after John says "Let's get him to a hospital", making the viewer think that Stuart went to a hospital after he got badly beaten, when it is clear that he did not.
• The scene where Stuart and Astrid have their moment in bed together is different. The other version has him showing her her new necklace, while this version, has the two of them making romance to each other.
• John's bedroom scene with Stuart has extra shots of the others in bed.
• The scene where they first talk to Brian Epstein is a little bit longer.
• The scene where Brian goes to find the Beatles performing "Love Me Do" at a venue is longer.
• The scene where Brian goes to tell the Beatles about George Martin and EMI, has him getting out of a taxi.
• In the scene where Cynthia tells John about expecting a baby, John asks her "What are we gonna call him?"
• The scene where the Beatles arrive at New York City is longer.
• The end credits feature "She Loves You", instead of "My Bonnie".
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Re: Birth Of The Beatles, European and US Cuts?
From Showbiz CheatSheet
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainmen ... ssed.html/
Why George Harrison Thought Dick Clark Was a Greedy Vulture: ‘I’d Be Embarrassed if I Was Him’
George Harrison did not like radio and television personality Dick Clark. He thought Clark was a greedy vulture who should be embarrassed of himself.
by HANNAH WIGANDT
Published on June 19, 2022
George Harrison was not a fan of American radio and television personality Dick Clark. In 1979, the American Bandstand host and “America’s oldest teenager” produced a biographical film called Birth of The Beatles. Clark needed Beatles songs and footage to complete the project, and George didn’t like it.
George didn’t like people who wanted a piece of The Beatles for their own gain.
During a 1987 interview, J. Kordosh of Creem Magazine told George he’d seen Clark’s documentary. George wasn’t impressed. He said all Clark did was send letters to The Beatles about wanting clips for his own projects. He always wanted a piece of The Beatles, like everyone else. George said Clark was greedy.
George said, “Dick Clark? Not him again. I’ll tell you, I don’t know what Americans think of him, but from the Beatles’ point of view, Dick Clark–I don’t know what he ever did with his own talent.
“Y’know, all he does is send you letters: ‘Can I have a clip of you doing this? Can I have a clip of you doing that? I’m making another movie about you and the history of this and that, and you’re in it and I’ll give you two dollars if you’ll let me have it in.’
“You get to the point of saying, ‘F*** off, Dick, think of your own ideas, you’re not getting any more of our s***. Just make your own films and rip off other people.’ Y’know, he’s a t***.”
Kordosh pointed out, “It would appear rock ‘n’ roll’s done more for him than he’s done for rock ‘n’ roll.” George replied, “Absolutely. I mean, who is he? And you see these albums coming out with all these great rock ‘n’ roll hits on them and
his face on the sleeve? I’d be embarrassed if I was him.”
George said Ed Sullivan was just as bad as Clark
It wasn’t only Clark that was greedy, according to George. The former Beatle claimed both Clark and Ed Sullivan were guilty of being greedy vultures. Sullivan was, of course, the host of The Ed Sullivan Show, where The Beatles made their first American televised performance.
Kordosh told George that Clark was a “conglomerate unto himself.” George threw Sullivan’s name into the mix. “Him and Ed Sullivan,” he said. “Ed Sullivan’s been dead about 19 years but he’s still out there making Ed Sullivan Productions. ‘Please, can we have another clip of you doing this? We’ll pay you two dollars.’ You know, piss off.”
Unfortunately, people like Clark and Sullivan received Beatle material because the band was on bad terms with each other. Then, people came in and took what they wanted without any consequence. Instead of suing each other, The Beatles should have been suing Clark, Sullivan, and whoever else for taking without asking.
“Being split and diversified over the years has made it difficult to consolidate certain Beatles interests,” George told Rolling Stone in 1979. “For example, all those naughty Broadway shows and stupid movies that have been made about the Beatles, using Beatles names and ideas, are all illegal.
“But because we’ve been arguing among ourselves all these years, people have had a free-for-all. Now we’ve gotten to the point where everybody’s agreed and we’ve allocated a company to go out and sue them all. It’s terrible, really.
“People think we’re giving all these producers and people permission to do it and that we’re making money out of it, but we don’t make a nickel. So it’s time that should be stopped.”
After that, The Beatles controlled who got clips of them, but that doesn’t mean the persistence of Clark and Sullivan wasn’t annoying.
“We have control over it, and sometimes you’ll get a decent program,” George told Kordosh. “When they ask ‘Can we have a clip of you doing such and such?’ you’re inclined to say yes.
“But when you get all these other people who are just like vultures, who amass video clips of all these other people and sell them around the world, it’s greed and it’s not artistic. It’s just big business. But we get requests all the time; it’s nonstop.”
Thankfully, The Beatles still had Apple to oversee all of it and to stop people like Clark and Sullivan from getting a piece of the band for their own gain. As George said, didn’t the world get enough of The Beatles?
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainmen ... ssed.html/
Why George Harrison Thought Dick Clark Was a Greedy Vulture: ‘I’d Be Embarrassed if I Was Him’
George Harrison did not like radio and television personality Dick Clark. He thought Clark was a greedy vulture who should be embarrassed of himself.
by HANNAH WIGANDT
Published on June 19, 2022
George Harrison was not a fan of American radio and television personality Dick Clark. In 1979, the American Bandstand host and “America’s oldest teenager” produced a biographical film called Birth of The Beatles. Clark needed Beatles songs and footage to complete the project, and George didn’t like it.
George didn’t like people who wanted a piece of The Beatles for their own gain.
During a 1987 interview, J. Kordosh of Creem Magazine told George he’d seen Clark’s documentary. George wasn’t impressed. He said all Clark did was send letters to The Beatles about wanting clips for his own projects. He always wanted a piece of The Beatles, like everyone else. George said Clark was greedy.
George said, “Dick Clark? Not him again. I’ll tell you, I don’t know what Americans think of him, but from the Beatles’ point of view, Dick Clark–I don’t know what he ever did with his own talent.
“Y’know, all he does is send you letters: ‘Can I have a clip of you doing this? Can I have a clip of you doing that? I’m making another movie about you and the history of this and that, and you’re in it and I’ll give you two dollars if you’ll let me have it in.’
“You get to the point of saying, ‘F*** off, Dick, think of your own ideas, you’re not getting any more of our s***. Just make your own films and rip off other people.’ Y’know, he’s a t***.”
Kordosh pointed out, “It would appear rock ‘n’ roll’s done more for him than he’s done for rock ‘n’ roll.” George replied, “Absolutely. I mean, who is he? And you see these albums coming out with all these great rock ‘n’ roll hits on them and
his face on the sleeve? I’d be embarrassed if I was him.”
George said Ed Sullivan was just as bad as Clark
It wasn’t only Clark that was greedy, according to George. The former Beatle claimed both Clark and Ed Sullivan were guilty of being greedy vultures. Sullivan was, of course, the host of The Ed Sullivan Show, where The Beatles made their first American televised performance.
Kordosh told George that Clark was a “conglomerate unto himself.” George threw Sullivan’s name into the mix. “Him and Ed Sullivan,” he said. “Ed Sullivan’s been dead about 19 years but he’s still out there making Ed Sullivan Productions. ‘Please, can we have another clip of you doing this? We’ll pay you two dollars.’ You know, piss off.”
Unfortunately, people like Clark and Sullivan received Beatle material because the band was on bad terms with each other. Then, people came in and took what they wanted without any consequence. Instead of suing each other, The Beatles should have been suing Clark, Sullivan, and whoever else for taking without asking.
“Being split and diversified over the years has made it difficult to consolidate certain Beatles interests,” George told Rolling Stone in 1979. “For example, all those naughty Broadway shows and stupid movies that have been made about the Beatles, using Beatles names and ideas, are all illegal.
“But because we’ve been arguing among ourselves all these years, people have had a free-for-all. Now we’ve gotten to the point where everybody’s agreed and we’ve allocated a company to go out and sue them all. It’s terrible, really.
“People think we’re giving all these producers and people permission to do it and that we’re making money out of it, but we don’t make a nickel. So it’s time that should be stopped.”
After that, The Beatles controlled who got clips of them, but that doesn’t mean the persistence of Clark and Sullivan wasn’t annoying.
“We have control over it, and sometimes you’ll get a decent program,” George told Kordosh. “When they ask ‘Can we have a clip of you doing such and such?’ you’re inclined to say yes.
“But when you get all these other people who are just like vultures, who amass video clips of all these other people and sell them around the world, it’s greed and it’s not artistic. It’s just big business. But we get requests all the time; it’s nonstop.”
Thankfully, The Beatles still had Apple to oversee all of it and to stop people like Clark and Sullivan from getting a piece of the band for their own gain. As George said, didn’t the world get enough of The Beatles?
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There is a Remastered Uncut Version of the BOTB (which is my favourite movie of that type) which was done by FAB a few years ago, but I have never managed to find one to buy at a reasonable price or one to DL, to see how good it really is!
hxxps://www.jagamart.com/biofbe19tvmo.html
hxxps://www.jagamart.com/biofbe19tvmo.html
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Re: Birth Of The Beatles, European and US Cuts?
Here's my copy from BBC TV from Wed 5th Oct 1994 (according to BBC Genome). The 'mickey mouse' quote is there, She Loves you is the opening theme song, the naked artists model is there and the end credits are neither 'She Loves You' or 'My Bonnie' but incidental music. I've no idea which version it is then. Anyway, here it is,Gringo557 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:20 pm
A European version exists, and is a different cut from the American version. The following changes were made to the European version:
• The prologue, which includes John saying that he wants to see Mickey Mouse is omitted.
• The opening theme song is "My Bonnie" instead of "She Loves You".
• A scene in an art school with a naked woman is included.
• The end credits feature "She Loves You", instead of "My Bonnie".
hxxps://we.tl/t-22Wbtb1Ddz