Google And Universal Music Group Negotiating AI-Generated Music Tool

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Google And Universal Music Group Negotiating AI-Generated Music Tool

Google and Universal Music Group are discussing whether to license artists’ melodies and vocals for AI-generated music, according to the Financial Times, following a recent trend of music produced by artificial intelligence that has faced backlash—and support—from music labels and artists.

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Universal Music—which represents artists like Drake, Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift—and Google are working to develop a tool for users to create AI-generated music using an artist’s voice, lyrics or sounds, the Financial Times reported.

A deal would pay copyright holders for the right to create the music, while artists would have the choice to opt in.

Warner Music Group is also discussing a similar product with Google, according to the Times.

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Universal Music—which represents artists like Drake, Ariana Grande and Taylor Swift—and Google are working to develop a tool for users to create AI-generated music using an artist’s voice, lyrics or sounds, the Financial Times reported.

A deal would pay copyright holders for the right to create the music, while artists would have the choice to opt in.

Warner Music Group is also discussing a similar product with Google, according to the Times.
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Do the Los Angeles parking prices gotcha down?
And I told you what cheap camouflage looks like!
It looks like a list of Jobe's misfortunes!
But, what of individual listening habits?
What of them? If you just joined us...
You are in a liquid called music.
See it flow!
Touch it!
Love it!
Listen to it!
Pay for it!
Add to cart.
Proceed to check-out!
Rent Paddle Boats
Baby's gone away!
She found The Beatles in the wood pile!
Welcome to the threshing floor where incredible accomplishment
is about to amaze you! How's the wife? Wonderful! Jam Session Sunday?
Those days are ABSOLUTELY OVER! Physically, there is no need to buck.
It's new, now.
It's clear, it flows, NOBODY OWNS IT...and it's countable!
Now does ANY of that sound artificial? Well, THAT's a relief.
THERE's NUTHING you can do about it!
Imagine what this could mean to every swimmer, wader, diver, surfer, skim boards...to Benjamin Braddock.
Are you listening?
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Yeah, this was innevitable really. Now that every Tom. Dick and Harry can sound exactly like Drake why not make some bucks out of it? Presumably they'll find a way to fingerprint the voices so that they'll be automatically blocked on youtube when fans try to upload their own unlicensed mixes.

It also signals the beginning of the "AI Singer Age". Today's music is so derivative and robotic that it can easily be replicated. Replicating John Lennon's voice is a couple of orders of magnitude more difficult than replicating some R&B singer who is Autotuned to death. Their voices already sound like computers anyway. So at first people will try to replicate them, and then after a while realise there is no point in paying a license fee to replicate, say, Drake when an out-of-the-box royalty free AI voice sounds just as good. Then after the voices are automated, the music and eventually the songwriting itself will be automated. Millions of wannabe bedroom stars churning out their automated AI songs on social media, all done in the time it takes to push a few buttons on their phones. Maybe the AI Artists will even compete with each other like the real artists do today, and produce followups based on the aggregated data from the audience. Maybe they'll create their own culture, and become influencers as well.
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Wow! I reread just a fraction and I got chills!
Stairway To Damien!
Whatever is in the news resembles Penn Jillette's Distraction hand!
The device/software is the pretext for proper billing etiquette which is not being discussed. This is just entrapment and a tap card. Think Mule/carrot! They are way past Beta and if you think Alexa is anyone to argue with...you must locate her first! Va-va-voom. This will probably mean Pope-Bots will replace Cardinal, Bishops and BeefEaters??? The Vatican will be a new Casino in the biggest gambling arenas. I guess better odds for mandatory tithing. What could ANY of this have to do with music?
A device that sells copyrighted intellectual property publishing permit.
"It ain't stealing if I was never planning to buy it"
Some will need dictionaries!
Some will need hacksaws!
Smart meter? Alexa? Your new smart arm? Smart molar?
BREAKING NEWS PREDICTION!: RADIO SHACK RETURNS TO TOP VIA 'sniffer kits'(Transmission Detector) Build Your OWN.
Wait! Don't answer! If you DO own physical ANY MEDIA! Serialized ISO files will be made and counted by all hardware. Main issue: You can't prove your own innocence. And frequent argument will bring closer scrutiny! Every tune can be identified and its location and user known...
Will we really need static photos of us listening to music? We might need some humor!
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The concept of AI singers had been a thing ever since "Daisy, Daisy" was sung by a computer.

Again, although it is really weird to see another person's voice being used as an AI, this could lead to some well-made projects. I also have some concerns with how they're gonna handle the copyrights to their voices, since technically it's their likeness.

Get ready, guys. The storm's just beginning.
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RalseiDeltarune wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:56 pm The concept of AI singers had been a thing ever since "Daisy, Daisy" was sung by a computer.

Again, although it is really weird to see another person's voice being used as an AI, this could lead to some well-made projects. I also have some concerns with how they're gonna handle the copyrights to their voices, since technically it's their likeness.

Get ready, guys. The storm's just beginning.
Somewhere on the internet i read a rant from John Philip Sousa from the late 1800s where he railed against mechanical music devices like pianolas. It is funny to read because even though the tech has changed, it could have been written yesterday. There's nothing new under the sun!

Reading about "Needle Time" in Britain I was also amazed at how at first the Musicians Union was even opposed to disc recording. They didn't want performers to make recordings AT ALL. Eventually they lightened up a bit when they realised that records actually helped publicize artists. But they still had a deathly grip over broadcasting until the 1970s, massively limiting the amount of records that could be played on air. I think the real reason The Beatles stopped appearing on the BBC is because every teenager in Britain stopped listening to the BBC is mid 1964 and started tuning into Radio caroline and radio London instead. Being offshore and beyond the reach of the union, they could play as many records as they liked. From Easter Sunday 1964 on, the Light Programme became irrelevant to teenagers.
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AI can't perform live so artists who have been "AI'd" can then just perform those new songs live themselves! Or will that create some other reverse-copyright issue?

Kwai Chang, guide us through this madness!
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alphabeatles wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:40 am AI can't perform live so artists who have been "AI'd" can then just perform those new songs live themselves! Or will that create some other reverse-copyright issue?
Kwai Chang, guide us through this madness!
Thank you, alphabeatles...
This is an unrehearsed vision... While I'm not especially prone to legal disputes, I am sure this is going to be the end of simple authorship. This is Kevin Kline in Silverado. The industry will be the casino/house-always-wins w/ agents in place to deceive and loot everyone who follows the rules. But, when Kline says "you're wearing my hat" -----> (You're singing my song!) click-click...double action justice replaces fine print. Just as before...AI shows up and on the surface it's function is to complicate movement and confuse issues. New realms of parallel analogies (LIVE AI Artist) will add more layers which will be blurred by an overlapping need for detail and order. So, the entire publishing scene will appear to put itself into a immobilization choke hold w/ arm-bar and figure-4. The new application process will then officially LOSE all new applicants new info. An animated struggle is choreographed to match the plotted chaos and in doing so, ALL NEW compositions are churned together as a batch of salt-water taffy and undefinable locations add up to a state of dormancy. A conspicuous lack of up-and-running status will effectively shut the door on ANYBODY attempting to enter. If AI can create, then it can steal and vandalize as well. With extreme prejudice...during which time(1 or 2 years?) new complicated argument and scrutiny will complicate simplicity with legalese and ambiguous fees, tariffs, tolls, taxes, and a realization that publishing rights are no longer within the legislative capabilities of intellectual property ownership. Perhaps a spin on the new realization that classical music theory is so rigid that EVERYTHING is plagiarized. There will be dramatized self-important horn blowing from ASCAP and BMI. These entities will merge and 'simplify' confusion(buy time) with razzle-dazzle and gobbledegook rewrites of the entire legislative mechanism. This will eventually appear seaworthy and as the regatta gets past the jetty, an obsolete system 'fails'. Public Domain is not safe. So, miles of imaginary chain-link fence will be strung across the intellectual riverbeds mountains and oceans of song-writing. It will be murky and brackish for 20 years...No royalties will be paid pending simplicity. Beatles Catalog will illustrate a sentimental single motivation...all the while attending to the real concerns first: the PRIVATIZATION of Public Domain. Don't laugh...
The scene ends with many of us in long-johns pointing bic-pens at the same poker game. "You're writing my song!"
Fetch a rope, fetch a sheriff, fetch a priest...So, goodbye, little people...we weren't included all along.
Expect similar weather patterns in the patents office! This will all be invisible with little mention in public media!
Streaming services will be explaining the new billing templates as the complications are going to be well hidden...but tangled.
So, complication of legal issues will require simplified law. which will be over the heads of the common man. The public domain will be privatized. The streaming will be convenient and simple to understand. That will roll into BILLING Contexts. This will be DMCA-Violation territory in 3 years. A BING-Bot! will be citing bulk quantities for a finely tuned flow/chaos/billing and a very vague formality known as the contract. It'll be clever, I promise! Casual music lovers are already in it. And, we don't even know how tabulations are to be determined!
Will it really happen?
It's just a matter of how many zeroes, now!
A low center of gravity might help!
We will all be billed for 'stolen' playback.
Will any of us survive?
The Beatles are the only hope for survival'(LOOK!!!)----->we are all downloading Beatles!!
What might that bring upon us?
BLING BLING
???????????????
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Kwai Chang wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:39 am The Beatles are the only hope for survival'(LOOK!!!)----->we are all downloading Beatles!!
What might that bring upon us?
BLING BLING
???????????????
KC
Spiral technology is based on gravity!
But that jabbering above was just stream of consciousness and when I read it then
It was audacious
Now, I think I'm extremely correct in my own HELP MR WIZARD!
HELP MR WIZARD!
Drizzle drazzle frazzled dome!
Time for this one to come home!
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