Sound And Vision today published this incredible seven part feature on Get Back, chronicling in forensic detail all the technical processes behind the shooting of the original footage, the early 2000s restorations and the most recent PJ series. Not only does it say exactly what equipment was used, but who operated and did what, and how they made the new tv series.
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/ ... s-get-back
Some of the things in here I had no clue about previously:
- the Nagras didn't roll at the same time except for an overlap of about one minute, where Peter Sutton would start rolling the second machine a little bit before the first one ran out (except for one particular day when he recorded different things on each).
- the Nagras are stereo tapes, with the camera synch pulse on the other track. The synch pulse from the A camera fed into one deck and the B camera into the other deck, but since only one was rolling at any one time, large parts of the audio have no synch pulse for the relevant camera.
- 40 nagra reels are missing, which at 16min each translates to around 10.5 out of 160 hours missing. However, 2.5 hours were rescued from MLH's work print. Pete's team went on a "deep dive" in 2019 looking for missing audio on Beatlegs. Geez, we were probably talking to them on Bootlegzone!
- they did indeed make a super-duper version with all 150 hours and just blank screen for the audio bits. This was then edited into an 18 hour version and then down to 8. The most complex restoration was only applied to what was seen on Disney... and it's way more than I had thought!
- I get the impression that there is much less real time visual coverage than people think. There was 57 hours of film scanned for Peter in total. But with two cameras often shooting the same thing and even more cameras operating on the last two days, the actual amount of song coverage might be less than 30 hours.... a lot less than we all would like.
- Giles sent Spector's orchestra through speakers in Studio 2 to beef it up!
- PJ's team mixed the tv series audio, not Giles and Sam.
Thanks to the guy on Steve Hoffman who posted a heads up about this.
EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT PJ's "GET BACK"
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Great find, Lord.
Here's another small piece about the restoration.
https://variety.com/2021/music/news/pet ... 235125819/
Here's another small piece about the restoration.
https://variety.com/2021/music/news/pet ... 235125819/
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extraordinarily interesting
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This suggests they were using the two recorders in tandem to avoid missing audio (which would make sense), but anyone who's listened to the Nagras knows that isn't true.Lord Reith wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:27 am - the Nagras didn't roll at the same time except for an overlap of about one minute, where Peter Sutton would start rolling the second machine a little bit before the first one ran out (except for one particular day when he recorded different things on each).
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And there are also times when the 2 recorders both run but record different microphones.Doug wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:31 pmThis suggests they were using the two recorders in tandem to avoid missing audio (which would make sense), but anyone who's listened to the Nagras knows that isn't true.Lord Reith wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:27 am - the Nagras didn't roll at the same time except for an overlap of about one minute, where Peter Sutton would start rolling the second machine a little bit before the first one ran out (except for one particular day when he recorded different things on each).
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Thanks Lord R for the share of info and thanks B4Y for the pdf.
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THANK YOU!Beatles4you wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:04 pm Thanks LR for the Info !
Here the Soundandvision seven parts in clean PDF
https://workupload.com/file/7xwAWZRSeDh