Need help with EMITAPE E70549 from Sept 16, 1968 (I will Session)

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Need help with EMITAPE E70549 from Sept 16, 1968 (I will Session)

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So - we have many of the acoustic tracks recorded during these sessions, and FINALLY the 50th Anniversary White Album BOOK shows us a pic of the actual EMITape box E70549.

So I'm trying to re-order the tracks from that day that were recorded and the FIRST track I must rectify is 'Can You Take Me Back' which has in the past been list as Take 19....but if I look closer at the Tape Box - I believe that 1 looks more like a 3...and THAT IS WHY IT is listed AFTER STEP, LOS, and WAY YOU LOOK....as the last listing...

Based on what has been released - can we compile a more accurate song order?

I'll list the songs if necessary...but first see the EMITape box from the Book and then consider the order of songs -

I'm thinking THIS is the new correct order -
68-09.16a - I Will (Take 1)(false start)
68-09.16b - I Will (Take 1)
68-09.16c - I Will (Take 12-13)(false start)(rattle them skulls)
68-09.16e - Blue Moon (jam)(Take28-I Will)
68-09.16f - I Will (Take 29)('I Won't' ending)
68-09.16g - Down In Havana (jam)(Take 30-I Will)(repaired)
68-09.16h - Step Inside Love (jam)(Take 34-I Will)(repaired)
68-09.16i - Los Paranoias (jam)(Take 35-I Will)
68-09.16j - The Way You Look Tonight (jam)(Take 36-I Will)
68-09.16d - Can You Take Me Back (jam)(Take 39-I Will) (changed form usual Take 19 listing)
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Re: Need help with EMITAPE E70549 from Sept 16, 1968 (I will Session)

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I don't see any resemblance between the character next to the 9 and the 3's noted above it for TK 35 and TK 36.

I simply read it as TK19 where the K and the 1 overlap resulting in the 1 not being that clear cut.
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Post by beatlesondvd »

I think you're right, MillerTEK. It does (vageuly) look like a three but, more importantly, it would explain why it is listed *after* take 36.
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harrylime wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:43 pm
I don't see any resemblance between the character next to the 9 and the 3's noted above it for TK 35 and TK 36.
... actually the character next to "TK?" does not resemble a 9 either ;)
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I read it as

TK 35
TK 36
TK?9

Where the ? doesn't look like the '3' above it at all. If I would read it as an agnostic OCR scanner I would recognise the ? as '⟘' but assuming it should be a digit, a 1 would be my most probable candidate.
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You know, now I can see it saying "39". The K should not extend the bottom end like that. Just a fast "3" scribble.
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I see it as a 7, with a bar across.

The character which looks like a 1 seems to be a 3 with the bottom half squashed - so for me, it's Take 37 - which makes perfect sense.
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Post by Doug »

To me, it looks like 19. See also the "I Will" session sheet, reproduced in "The Beatles Recording Sessions." There, you can see that take 19 is listed as "good adlib" where take 39 is listed as a complete take of "I Will."

And don't forget the unique few seconds of the end of an unknown take, grafted onto the end of "She's Leaving Home" on the "Love" audience tape.

Oh, also, I'm not sure what you're listing as a false start for take 1, but if it's the snippet from the "Anthology" video that's just a remixed part of the beginning of take 1 (if you listen closely, you can hear Ringo's cymbal crash and end of his "can you turn it down in my cans" comment). The snippet does, however, give us the count-in.
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It's 39.
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