LET'S UNIFY CRITERIA ON "GET BACK SESSIONS"

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Doug wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:32 pmHas anyone noticed any new audio in the PJ documentary? I guess if there's anything in there it will have to be designated by an "a" or "b" after the DDSI number.
I think there's some new dialogue from Twickenham, yeah.
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kolive wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:41 pm
Enriquelu, your chart is great and will also be very useful ( though I have to magnify it
to see anything :) )
Here there is the complete graphic

https://getbacksessions.blogspot.com/p/ ... ences.html
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enriquelu wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:42 pm we are analyzing PJ's documentaries, but that is going to take a long time. So far I have only analyzed part of day 2 and it has a very complex edit. It is not in chronological order and is made up of many small pieces. But we move on
I am, too and have come to the same conclusion.
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Problems to solve:

Day 6 - 2.60 should be 6.60
Day 21 - Foul 21.54
I understand that on day 21 - 074 - 21.65P it must be DDSI.21.54 P
I understand that on day 21 - 075 - 21.51P it must be DDSI.21.49 P
I understand that on day 21 - 078 - 21.51P it must be DDSI.21.49 P
Day 22 - DDSI.22.58 and DDSI.22.59 are missing
Day 25 - We should study where the 25.38P leaves


My progress was noted on BZ on a daily basis. Unfortunately for me those notes are lost. But I can confirm that PC did have a several instances of repeated material which I eliminated.

So 2.60 should be 6.60 as noted. I can't believe this one got out.
DDSI 21.54 existed only as a playback and was used twice on the PC set.
DDSI 22,58 + 22.59 do not exist on the available Nagra recordings. They are found in the STUDIO portion. PC took those tracks and made a mono fold down for A/B Road.

I'll be looking into the rest.
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enriquelu wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:50 pm The first scene of the man sweeping I don't know where it comes from. It's not included in a Nagra Roll.
It's most likely that audio was created for the documentary. There are definitely moments throughout the documentary where sound effects not present on the Nagras or studio tapes are heard. Just part of the process of turning edited material into a cohesive film, even for a documentary.
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dumbchops wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:31 pm

My progress was noted on BZ on a daily basis. Unfortunately for me those notes are lost. But I can confirm that PC did have a several instances of repeated material which I eliminated.

I saved many of the notes, would you like them in some way?
I could put them here, but their rather long...
Since the the tracklists are interspersed.
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kolive wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:50 am
dumbchops wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:31 pm

My progress was noted on BZ on a daily basis. Unfortunately for me those notes are lost. But I can confirm that PC did have a several instances of repeated material which I eliminated.

I saved many of the notes, would you like them in some way?
I could put them here, but their rather long...
Since the the tracklists are interspersed.
I would love to see those. Any way you can PM me?
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dumbchops wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:31 pm Problems to solve:

Day 6 - 2.60 should be 6.60
Day 21 - Foul 21.54
I understand that on day 21 - 074 - 21.65P it must be DDSI.21.54 P
I understand that on day 21 - 075 - 21.51P it must be DDSI.21.49 P
I understand that on day 21 - 078 - 21.51P it must be DDSI.21.49 P
Day 22 - DDSI.22.58 and DDSI.22.59 are missing
Day 25 - We should study where the 25.38P leaves


My progress was noted on BZ on a daily basis. Unfortunately for me those notes are lost. But I can confirm that PC did have a several instances of repeated material which I eliminated.

So 2.60 should be 6.60 as noted. I can't believe this one got out.
DDSI 21.54 existed only as a playback and was used twice on the PC set.
DDSI 22,58 + 22.59 do not exist on the available Nagra recordings. They are found in the STUDIO portion. PC took those tracks and made a mono fold down for A/B Road.

I'll be looking into the rest.
Exactly! If we still have BZ as a reference, most the PC flaws were being noted as each session day of New Blue Soap came out, everyone gave input as they found other errors in PC's set and they were corrected with updates as well. People should take note of the A and B rolls that are still missing.
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DVWerks wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:36 am
enriquelu wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:50 pm The first scene of the man sweeping I don't know where it comes from. It's not included in a Nagra Roll.
It's most likely that audio was created for the documentary. There are definitely moments throughout the documentary where sound effects not present on the Nagras or studio tapes are heard. Just part of the process of turning edited material into a cohesive film, even for a documentary.
Sometimes the camera rolls themselves had audio. The first day was sloppy. With all the stops and starts, the nagra roll might not have been matched up to the sweeping of the floor. There was only one camera and one nagra recorder running on the 2nd and the cameraaudio, though the same feed as the nagra was not always stopped and started at the same time.
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dumbchops wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:31 pm
So 2.60 should be 6.60 as noted. I can't believe this one got out.
DDSI 21.54 existed only as a playback and was used twice on the PC set.
DDSI 22,58 + 22.59 do not exist on the available Nagra recordings. They are found in the STUDIO portion. PC took those tracks and made a mono fold down for A/B Road.
That's correct
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